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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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claret people who are hurt plaza
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
pea-brained theater kitty cat
  12/16/25
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claret people who are hurt plaza
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Aqua wonderful death wish
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
pea-brained theater kitty cat
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Aqua wonderful death wish
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
pea-brained theater kitty cat
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Aqua wonderful death wish
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
claret people who are hurt plaza
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
pea-brained theater kitty cat
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Aqua wonderful death wish
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
pea-brained theater kitty cat
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Aqua wonderful death wish
  12/17/25
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claret people who are hurt plaza
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pea-brained theater kitty cat
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
mewling talented state voyeur
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
pea-brained theater kitty cat
  12/16/25
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mewling talented state voyeur
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
ebony seedy therapy indian lodge
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
pea-brained theater kitty cat
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
slimy quadroon whorehouse
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
pea-brained theater kitty cat
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Hairless odious international law enforcement agency laser beams
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pea-brained theater kitty cat
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claret people who are hurt plaza
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
spectacular property queen of the night
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
magenta underhanded chad
  12/17/25
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pea-brained theater kitty cat
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spectacular property queen of the night
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claret people who are hurt plaza
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claret people who are hurt plaza
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Aqua wonderful death wish
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Jet twisted base pisswyrm
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: claret people who are hurt plaza



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: claret people who are hurt plaza

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Aqua wonderful death wish

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Aqua wonderful death wish

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Aqua wonderful death wish

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: claret people who are hurt plaza

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Aqua wonderful death wish

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Aqua wonderful death wish

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: claret people who are hurt plaza



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: mewling talented state voyeur

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: mewling talented state voyeur



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: ebony seedy therapy indian lodge

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: slimy quadroon whorehouse

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Hairless odious international law enforcement agency laser beams

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: claret people who are hurt plaza



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: spectacular property queen of the night

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: magenta underhanded chad

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: pea-brained theater kitty cat



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: spectacular property queen of the night



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: claret people who are hurt plaza



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: claret people who are hurt plaza



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Aqua wonderful death wish

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Jet twisted base pisswyrm

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515738)