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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Ruby diverse pozpig
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Trip Sickened Halford
  12/16/25
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Ruby diverse pozpig
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Trip Sickened Halford
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Trip Sickened Halford
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Ruby diverse pozpig
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Trip Sickened Halford
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Trip Sickened Halford
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine
  12/17/25
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Ruby diverse pozpig
  12/17/25
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Trip Sickened Halford
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
magenta box office chad
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Trip Sickened Halford
  12/16/25
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magenta box office chad
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Startled scarlet public bath
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Trip Sickened Halford
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
brass mildly autistic black woman
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Trip Sickened Halford
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
talented brindle background story
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Ruby diverse pozpig
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
tan stage
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
bronze contagious internal respiration faggot firefighter
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tan stage
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Ruby diverse pozpig
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Ruby diverse pozpig
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
tantric multi-colored chapel
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Ruby diverse pozpig



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Ruby diverse pozpig

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Ruby diverse pozpig

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Ruby diverse pozpig



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: magenta box office chad

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: magenta box office chad



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Startled scarlet public bath

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: brass mildly autistic black woman

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: talented brindle background story

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Ruby diverse pozpig



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: tan stage

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: bronze contagious internal respiration faggot firefighter

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Trip Sickened Halford



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: tan stage



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Ruby diverse pozpig



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Ruby diverse pozpig



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Vivacious mentally impaired dopamine

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2"#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: tantric multi-colored chapel

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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