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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Glittery ocher ticket booth
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
topaz talking preventive strike station
  12/16/25
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Glittery ocher ticket booth
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Fear-inspiring mauve business firm
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
topaz talking preventive strike station
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Fear-inspiring mauve business firm
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
topaz talking preventive strike station
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Fear-inspiring mauve business firm
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Glittery ocher ticket booth
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
topaz talking preventive strike station
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Fear-inspiring mauve business firm
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
topaz talking preventive strike station
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Fear-inspiring mauve business firm
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Glittery ocher ticket booth
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topaz talking preventive strike station
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Seedy market international law enforcement agency
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
topaz talking preventive strike station
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Seedy market international law enforcement agency
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
beady-eyed house gaming laptop
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
topaz talking preventive strike station
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
alcoholic odious ratface church
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
topaz talking preventive strike station
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Costumed corn cake
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Glittery ocher ticket booth
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
azure coffee pot den
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Comical demanding son of senegal
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topaz talking preventive strike station
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azure coffee pot den
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Glittery ocher ticket booth
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Glittery ocher ticket booth
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Fear-inspiring mauve business firm
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Balding kink-friendly orchestra pit
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Glittery ocher ticket booth



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Glittery ocher ticket booth

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring mauve business firm

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring mauve business firm

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring mauve business firm

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Glittery ocher ticket booth

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring mauve business firm

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring mauve business firm

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Glittery ocher ticket booth



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Seedy market international law enforcement agency

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Seedy market international law enforcement agency



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: beady-eyed house gaming laptop

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: alcoholic odious ratface church

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Costumed corn cake

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Glittery ocher ticket booth



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: azure coffee pot den

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Comical demanding son of senegal

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: topaz talking preventive strike station



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: azure coffee pot den



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Glittery ocher ticket booth



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Glittery ocher ticket booth



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring mauve business firm

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2)#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Balding kink-friendly orchestra pit

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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