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they could be wandering around under bridges eating trash until they keel over

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just did some work for a nice retirement place - ai/automation integration. $250k upfront and monthly fee is the base entry point. insane waiting lists

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49322196)

The cheapest way to spend your golden years is probably in an assisted living group home. I got my sister into one of these. It did not take Medicaid. 10 years ago it was $3K/month for a private room in a large house in an upscale tract neighborhood. Full time staff and meals included. Assisted living in a facility with a private apartment is probably $6-15K depending upon the area and niceness.

Wife and I are trying to figure out what to do if we fail to drop dead on schedule.

Wife's sister has dementia and is a facility where almost everyone is on Medicaid. It's actually not bad physically, but there are no activities. Her husband takes her out almost every day. Otherwise she would sit and stare at the wall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49322280)

i really just need to wander off into the forest if i get to that point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49322563)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMDsUdhymbQ

we're supposed to die at home from the flu that we caught from our grandkids, or from some stupid infection that gets into our blood stream, or from cancer that we didn't notice until the very end. modern medicine and the medical industrial complex have completely perverted our relationship with death. i know everyone voluntarily signs up for all this shit, but you can't expect the average person to say no. it's incredibly abusive and wasteful and inhumane and no one can stop it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49322354)

there is a way to stop it, but that's another story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49322534)

it totally sucks for them and i feel emotionally sorry for them, but none of these people should exist. you're supposed to die when you get old, not become an invalid and an anchor for the young and healthy and virile and productive. this is really a moral issue that everyone should be concerned with. one of the reasons why the western world is deteriorating so badly is because old people have so much disproportional power and influence and will not just fucking get out of the way and die like they're supposed to

modern technology keeping people alive as the walking dead in order to make more monopoly money off them is truly grotesque in so many ways

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one can speculate that maybe a different society, a different culture, a different people might prepare themselves better for the terror at the end, but that's fantasy

we'll all continue to suffer horribly for years before we finally die

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That sad, lonely gap LOL

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people in the past had different understandings of and relationships to death because of their environments and circumstances

this is one of the most complex and difficult topics and questions that exists for human beings. it's not simple at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49322750)

you might as well claim that young women in 1550s italy didn't fly to machu picchu because of their values

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49322762)

no you idiot. the problem is us and it's always been us.

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It's no surprise people in the west have trouble dealing with it, it's not in our tradition to accept death.

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One grandparent I had died like this, another one was well on their way until they got into an accident (caused by an illegal) and then spent the next 5 or so years in agonizing pain becoming crippled.

I've also seen some crazy shit...like an old guy I knew who lived across the hall from me was basically all alone, and slowly dying of stomach cancer. I think his wife had died or he was a lifelong bachelor maybe.

Towards the end he fell a couple times and I could hear him calling for help. I got the fire department to help him...I remember vividly once in his piss smelling apartment (he kept the door unlocked). It was crazy. Just huge stacks of pill bottles in buckets of KFC everywhere on top of random clutter.

I think as you get older and if you don't have people in your life taking care of you or a strong community it makes a lot of sense to sell off/donate possessions you don't need or use...because eventually the hoarder instinct takes over or you simply cant keep track of the stuff you have.

Also from what I've noticed, even if you do every single thing right health wise, as a man after the age of 90 your body starts to completely fail you. I'd consider myself lucky if I had the same health I have now and just dropped dead on my 91st birthday.

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maybe if we didn't have a 90 hour a week work culture squeezing every spare minute of life out of labor there'd be more time for the whole "family" shit but we do so off to the shitlib nurse rached haitian rape home you go gramps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49323876)

banks & immigration v supply is a bigger issue re: housing

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I actually don't even know who that other poaster is, I don't recognize him

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stop lying for Master jew. it's happening. housing resale should be a matter for families, local landlords, and small trusts. BIGFIRM breaching into something that should be sort of "settled" and maybe even a little sacred is going to open a can of worms down the line

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It doesnt even matter if theyre in the market or not, the issue is the bubble which existed before this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49324577)

it was a nice middle class neighborhood and now it looks like new delhi. many of the original owners, there for decades, have since moved out and those homes get snapped up by the firm and tricked out to people living 18 to a 2-3 bedroom home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782576&forum_id=2).#49324591)

it's a loop and that loop is infected with toxic money-driven cultural facets as well as demands for constant growth from assets and these demands are effectively producing a business schema that shreds what's important about life to the people living it outside of the overlay placed upon it by the bigfirm combine harvester, all so that some fat dickhead can afford a new mistress each month and a newly tiled pool for his whore sprog litter

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Housing costs in the US suck because of mass immigration, demographics rendering many otherwise desirable spaces uninhabitable, the civil rights act, and extreme supply scarcity in desirable areas

All of the nons have to be removed, simple as. The housing situation will only get worse otherwise

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all honest conservatives run up against these problems eventually if they haven't been anesthetized by money into a quasi-lucid twilight state

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the atomic family is like a snake constantly being loaded up with guilts from outside and then forced to shed its skin to keep the nucleus from expiring from various cancers. the extended family is generally a superior model as it has *memory* and *context* that the atomic family does not

when you think about it the atomic family is actually a very liberal concept and it tends to do best in times where liberalism is ascendant

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not siding with either one with any kind of permanence here but family structure is a major factor of meaningful contention in the comparison of western and non-western outcomes

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rootless atomic families are swayed by anything and sitting ducks for shitliberalism and GloCap

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