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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Exciting Pearly Piazza
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
  12/16/25
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Exciting Pearly Piazza
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Exciting Pearly Piazza
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit
  12/17/25
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Exciting Pearly Piazza
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Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
mahogany narrow-minded gas station mood
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
  12/16/25
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mahogany narrow-minded gas station mood
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
sable up-to-no-good field
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Provocative Native
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Hateful Base Stain
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Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
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Exciting Pearly Piazza
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
chocolate locus keepsake machete
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
zippy quadroon
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Maize Exhilarant Turdskin
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chocolate locus keepsake machete
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Exciting Pearly Piazza
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Exciting Pearly Piazza
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Lascivious mother
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Exciting Pearly Piazza



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Exciting Pearly Piazza

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Exciting Pearly Piazza

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Exciting Pearly Piazza



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: mahogany narrow-minded gas station mood

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: mahogany narrow-minded gas station mood



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: sable up-to-no-good field

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Provocative Native

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Hateful Base Stain

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Exciting Pearly Piazza



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: chocolate locus keepsake machete

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: zippy quadroon

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Maize Exhilarant Turdskin



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: chocolate locus keepsake machete



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Exciting Pearly Piazza



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Exciting Pearly Piazza



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Histrionic silver background story orchestra pit

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Lascivious mother

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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