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R there any ethical issues w/ an associate stealing firm clients
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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:48 PM Author: contagious house on the way out the door. In other words, an associate gives notice, and then immediately call all of the clients letting them know he or she is leaving and asking them to come with the associate to their new firm.
Any ethical issues? Or is this just bad form, if anything.
This is in California btw |
Date: December 4th, 2014 11:52 PM Author: Gay Garrison Enjoy disbarment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2747303&forum_id=2/#26860663) |
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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:53 PM Author: contagious house this isn't for me, this is for an associate (or really of counsel) at my firm who is doing this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2747303&forum_id=2/#26860675) |
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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:53 PM Author: Aggressive piazza no. ethics are flame. the most powerful biglawyers in the country do this all the time: http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/crimelaw/features/577/
Most partners who leave their old firm announce their departures only after they have secretly negotiated a new job; the New York State Bar Association's rules of ethics prohibit lawyers from trying to woo clients away from their old firms before they leave. But in the increasingly mercenary law-firm world, such niceties are seldom respected. Block announced his departure and then spent three months dangling his client list in front of a dozen of Manhattan's largest firms, all as he continued to conduct business from Weil's midtown offices. A manic phone campaign ensued, with Block and his ex-partners both calling the big-ticket clients to win them over to their respective sides. He shrugs off the hot glares and icy treatment he received from many of his old partners in his months of limbo. "If you're not getting support at what you're doing -- and I never got support at Weil -- if you're feeling that everybody is sort of out for themselves trying to build their own little fiefdom, then the satisfaction . . . isn't there."
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Date: December 4th, 2014 11:54 PM Author: Pearly racy hell good luck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2747303&forum_id=2/#26860678) |
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Date: December 5th, 2014 12:00 AM Author: Snowy demanding theater stage No fiduciary duties as an associate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2747303&forum_id=2/#26860700) |
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Date: December 5th, 2014 12:02 AM Author: contagious house this is what I thought (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2747303&forum_id=2/#26860718) |
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Date: December 5th, 2014 12:01 AM Author: aphrodisiac twisted round eye den ASSOCIATE: "hey client, given that we worked closely on all these matters, I wanted to let you know that I will be leaving my firm and joining this new firm. I hope to continue working with you. Once I officially start, I will reach out so we can set up arrangements." CLIENT: *calls partner* "hey partner, some faggot associate called me about something, what's that about." PARTNER: "I don't know, probably some faggot thing. let me know if he bothers you again." |
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Date: December 5th, 2014 12:03 AM Author: contagious house this woman is an of counsel with 25 years of experience. She is a real threat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2747303&forum_id=2/#26860726) |
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Date: December 5th, 2014 12:05 AM Author: aphrodisiac twisted round eye den ethics are gay pretty fuckin retarded to think a lawyer would leave and not try to keep their clients people do it all the time sometimes firms make a big deal out of it, sometimes not
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Date: December 5th, 2014 12:14 AM Author: contagious house yeah, just frustrating, because they aren't her clients. A couple of partners trusted her with their clients (some just started 6 months ago), then she slowly tried to push the partners out of the transactions by not copying them on emails, and now is leaving and trying to poach them. All while lying to everyone about her intentions so they would trust her.
Luckily, for 90% of our clients, it won't work. |
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Date: December 5th, 2014 12:11 AM Author: internet-worthy multi-colored new version potus While I haven't dealt with this in the legal field, I have seen it in other businesses. It almost never goes as planned. The defector will take along some clients of course, but clients/customers can be surprisingly loyal to the brand of a given company, even when they have dealt primarily with one person at that company who is no longer there. What usually happens, in my experience, is that the defector takes enough clients to survive, at least in the short run, but not to thrive. It looks like a golden ticket to hire away someone who has a book of business, or to leave with a book of business for a better deal, but the grass is rarely as green as it looks from the other side of the fence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2747303&forum_id=2/#26860777) |
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Date: December 5th, 2014 12:15 AM Author: contagious house yeah, it is looking like she won't be that successful, but it is still frustrating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2747303&forum_id=2/#26860811) |