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Just finished Shadow of the Erdtree (Elden Ring DLC). Ask me anything

I know the main thing on everyone's mind is how Doodikoff wo...
Hollywood Hogan
  06/27/24
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Unbothered. Moisturized. Bloodline cursed.
  06/27/24
I can’t argue with any of this IMHO
michael doodikoff
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The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)
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Hollywood Hogan
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So we looked at the data
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I wish I could put in a cheat code to overlevel myself
fourth of july
  06/27/24
tp. ❤️
The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)
  06/27/24
The only good farming spot in the whole expansion is in the ...
Hollywood Hogan
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cowgod
  06/27/24
How can this game be basically the biggest success ever and ...
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The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)
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cowgod
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cowgod
  06/28/24
In retrospect I didn't really like it and it was extremely f...
Unbothered. Moisturized. Bloodline cursed.
  06/28/24
But it's still far more competent than Western Titles. Don't...
cowgod
  06/28/24
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/264562-playstation-5/80...
cowgod
  06/28/24
How many pages is it?
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
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jose canseco
  06/27/24
I'm sure he could beat the first boss if he summoned allies
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/27/24
That would increase the health pool of the boss a lot and if...
Hollywood Hogan
  06/27/24
Should I play this shit? ER just pisses me off and I liked D...
cowgod
  06/28/24
The expansion will piss you off more than the base game beca...
Hollywood Hogan
  06/28/24
Have a pure dex melee build and a mimic tear +10. Am at abo...
Dickey Simpkins
  06/28/24
I asked the same question above, number 3. It just pisses me...
cowgod
  06/28/24
You should be at least level 150 or you'll get absolutely wr...
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/28/24
Anywhere better to grind in the main game other than that ar...
Dickey Simpkins
  06/28/24
Just do coop on bosses. I got a lot of xp that way myself
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/28/24
u should be OK but will need to cop an imba build for Messme...
Dagoth Ur
  06/28/24
You will be fine up until the last two or so bosses. Mimic t...
young Boasthard
  06/28/24
I would say that the mimic trivializes every boss in the exp...
Hollywood Hogan
  06/28/24
Just killed Bayle the Dread with a pure sorcery build in 5is...
Dagoth Ur
  06/28/24
i thought bayle was easy but i summoned the gold NPC to do h...
Hollywood Hogan
  06/28/24
Can't believe how big this fucking DLC is. And only $40. Sho...
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/28/24
thought this DLC was basically incredible aside from how the...
young Boasthard
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Date: June 27th, 2024 3:59 AM
Author: Hollywood Hogan

I know the main thing on everyone's mind is how Doodikoff would perform. In short: he wouldn't.

Let's make the unwarranted assumption that someone gifted Doodikoff a lvl 200 (overleveled) character with a meta build and killed Mohg and Radahn for him (which are required to enter the DLC). There is *some* possibility that Doodikoff might make it to the first boss, because he did get to Margit and the first dungeon is both shorter and easier than Stormveil castle.

But he would be filtered immediately upon entering the boss room. The first boss hits much harder than Margit and is faster too. It can hit even an over-leveled character for over half their health. It is on you with a charge attack as soon as you enter the room. In my educated opinion, most of doodikoff's attempts would end in under 10-15 seconds, with negligible damage dealt. At best, with sustained practice, he might get the boss down 25% and last up to a minute. In the unlikely event he got "in the zone" one every hundred attempts and got the boss down to 50% health, he would be greeted by a second phase in which the boss becomes faster, more damaging, more unpredictable, and gains powerful arena-filling AOE attacks. It is highly unlikely that Doodikoff would ever land more than 1-2 hits on the second form.

The difficulty only ramps up from there, culminating in an insane final boss fight that is the hardest ever in a Souls game. I have beaten every Souls game multiple times legit, without using cheap crutches, and this fight is so ridiculous that I had to do a min-max respec and pull every single piece of cheese out of my bag of tricks. Even using the fucking Mimic tear, he took an hour to beat. He makes Malenia look like a normal, non-boss enemy.

I can very confidently say that even if Doodikoff was highly incentivized to beat this boss (such as by being rewarded by having his first choice of past online dates that rejected him become infatuated and willing to marry him), and he was given all the resources needed to do so (including a generous stipend so he could retire and do nothing but practice Elden Ring, hire personal coaches to walk him through the fight, etc.), he would literally still never, ever be able to win and would die having been cucked by this boss over 3.5 million times (assuming 40 years of remaining life, 12 hours per day, 20 attempts per hour). He would NEVER, EVER win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47781591)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 4:02 AM
Author: Unbothered. Moisturized. Bloodline cursed.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47781594)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 8:30 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

I can’t argue with any of this IMHO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47781845)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 3:39 PM
Author: The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783314)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 3:33 PM
Author: Hollywood Hogan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783299)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 3:38 PM
Author: So we looked at the data



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783313)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 3:42 PM
Author: fourth of july

I wish I could put in a cheat code to overlevel myself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783320)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 4:44 PM
Author: The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)

tp. ❤️

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783538)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 11:28 PM
Author: Hollywood Hogan

The only good farming spot in the whole expansion is in the last dungeon. LJL

In the base game you can use the sword you get from the last boss, the one that has a special that blasts a giant wave of light. There is a spot outside mohg's palace right in front of a save point that has a ton of decent XP enemies all close together. You just blast them with the light wave for XP, then reset them with the save point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47786429)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 3:43 PM
Author: cowgod (cowgod180@hotmail.com)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783322)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: cowgod (cowgod180@hotmail.com)

How can this game be basically the biggest success ever and yet it has so little impact on the “cultural conversation” around the State of Gaming? Somehow people pay a lot of attention to Ubisoft sucking, to the triumph of “indie games,” and no one really talks about Japanese AAA games other than, like, to actually discuss the games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783421)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 4:43 PM
Author: The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783536)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 8:50 PM
Author: cowgod (cowgod180@hotmail.com)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47784534)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 7:51 AM
Author: cowgod (cowgod180@hotmail.com)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47787571)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 8:11 AM
Author: Unbothered. Moisturized. Bloodline cursed.

In retrospect I didn't really like it and it was extremely forgettable compared to other Fromsoft titles

I enjoyed it a bit at the time but now that the dust has settled I remember very little about it, think the story and worldbuilding were mediocre and not interesting or worthy of much note at all, and barely remember any of the encounters. Zero desire to replay it or get the DLC

BB otoh I more or less remember from start to finish and still await a sequel even if it's more or less perfect as a standalone game so I'm not biased against Fromsoft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47787600)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:16 AM
Author: cowgod (cowgod180@hotmail.com)

But it's still far more competent than Western Titles. Don't compare it to Bloodborne, which is Playstation exclusive alongside intellectual titles like Death Stranding, MGS3, Xenogears, Xenosaga, and so forth. Nobody really looks at Horizon/Assassins Creed on one hand, and Elden Ring on the other. They don't juxtapose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47788463)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: cowgod (cowgod180@hotmail.com)

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/264562-playstation-5/80799244/981059819

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47788682)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 4:45 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitch bois)

How many pages is it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783544)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 5:41 PM
Author: jose canseco



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783790)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 5:44 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


I'm sure he could beat the first boss if he summoned allies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47783802)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 11:31 PM
Author: Hollywood Hogan

That would increase the health pool of the boss a lot and if he died it would not matter that the allies were still alive. It's possible that if he turtled up in the corner behind a greatshield and never attempted to damage the boss, some pros with meta builds might kill the boss before it kills him after several tries. But with spirit ashes or a NPC summon? No, never. His only chance would be to basically have someone else play the game for him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47786470)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 7:57 AM
Author: cowgod (cowgod180@hotmail.com)

Should I play this shit? ER just pisses me off and I liked DS3 and BB way more. Like Margit jumps around like a madman, Malenia was a cunt. I just like when ashes don’t exist and the difficulty is exquisitely Engineered. I thought it would be a more chill RPG experience which is how they sold it but it was a Lie, almost Todd Howard esque. I played demons souls before this and it was chill as fuck, not even hard iirc. And internet posters attack me like I’m doodikoff, or like I’m posting in a gun thread and hegemon showed up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47787579)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:21 PM
Author: Hollywood Hogan

The expansion will piss you off more than the base game because the bosses are tuned around ashes and summoning. Many of them are hyper-aggressive with tiny punish windows and move around more than Margit with the expectation that you will be swapping aggro with another target to get an attack window. And they are balanced around the player cheesing them with the most broken builds and weapons and spamming L2 specials. Of the 10 main bosses, more than half of them would be extremely difficult to beat with a Dark Souls 3 playstyle (like say a sword and board character with some sort of elemental weapon enchant who downs bosses by dodging/blocking and using R1 attacks during the punish window and doesn't summon anything). Many would take hours of attempts to learn assuming decent player skill to begin with. The last boss would probably take a whole weekend to learn if the player fights honorably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47789448)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 8:24 AM
Author: Dickey Simpkins

Have a pure dex melee build and a mimic tear +10. Am at about level 120 and struggled with the end bosses in the main game but did manage to beat everyone eventually.

Is this worth it for me or am I going to just get crushed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47787635)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:07 AM
Author: cowgod (cowgod180@hotmail.com)

I asked the same question above, number 3. It just pisses me off how this was supposed to be the easy/chill one when it wasn't. Bloodborne (non DLC) and Demon's Souls are chill but internet posters are idiots and will always overrated the difficulty of something the older that it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47788394)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:19 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


You should be at least level 150 or you'll get absolutely wrekt in the DLC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47788474)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:28 AM
Author: Dickey Simpkins

Anywhere better to grind in the main game other than that area near Mogh’s palace?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47788523)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 3:08 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


Just do coop on bosses. I got a lot of xp that way myself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47789695)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:19 AM
Author: Dagoth Ur

u should be OK but will need to cop an imba build for Messmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47788481)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:55 PM
Author: young Boasthard

You will be fine up until the last two or so bosses. Mimic tear still makes everything fairly trivial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47788989)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:31 PM
Author: Hollywood Hogan

I would say that the mimic trivializes every boss in the expansion other than the last boss, except that if you were already struggling in the base game WITH the mimic, the expansion will be pretty difficult. You will want some utility from faith spells and a minimum of 40 vigor (and 50+ would be a lot better) so you will be short on stat points at level 120.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47789506)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:13 AM
Author: Dagoth Ur

Just killed Bayle the Dread with a pure sorcery build in 5ish attempts

Messmer on the other hand...was probably pushing 200 attempts lol

I am planning to do the scarlet rot rapier with a black great shield for radahn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47788436)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:41 PM
Author: Hollywood Hogan

i thought bayle was easy but i summoned the gold NPC to do his quest

there is a late game fight that changes based on the outcomes of various quests. if you are dedicated to not using spirit ashes, the fight could be very difficult if you complete/don't complete quests in a certain way that stacks the deck against you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47789547)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 3:09 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


Can't believe how big this fucking DLC is. And only $40. Should be an $80 tbqh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47789703)



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Date: June 28th, 2024 3:27 PM
Author: young Boasthard

thought this DLC was basically incredible aside from how they handled Miquella from a narrative/gameplay perspective. huge, huge areas, lots of fleshing out the backstory in interesting ways, great visual design, the bosses were for the most part fun

it makes basically all western gaming look totally pathetic and feeble in contrast. it's actually hilarious how head and shoulders from software is over anyone else. the combination of GRRM and Miyazaki was incredible and Miyazaki was a genius in its implementation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545970&forum_id=2/#47789815)