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So every single 'right-wing' group is embroiled in drama over a transsexual?
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:39 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669599) |
Date: May 17th, 2024 12:40 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner i'm always ahead of the fucking curve (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669600) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:40 PM Author: silver swashbuckling center for today. when the egalitarian ratchet effect ratchets further to the Next Thing -- beastiality or pedophelia -- transsexual acceptance will be the new conservative position and they'll be embodied in that new controversy
looking forward to gunner being proudly friends with animal and child fuckers |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:41 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story Always very suspicious of people who equate consensual activities with nonconsensual activities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669607) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:42 PM Author: silver swashbuckling center oh, so children can consent to transsexual grooming and transsexual surgery? hi EPAH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669610) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:45 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story I think GnRH agonists/antagonists should be banned for use in children and 'gender-affirming surgery' should, aside from being banned for use on children, incur unlimited civil liability for surgeons who perform procedures on people who later regret them.
Estrogen and testosterone should be available over the counter for everyone, of course.
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:51 PM Author: silver swashbuckling center This just hides the ball. the truth is that there were essentially zero transsexuals until the past five or ten years -- instead you had a small number of tom boys and girly boys. as such, this transsexualism push is simply liberal mental illness being pushed on defenseless children. even if they wait to chop off their genitals until 18 the damage was done long before then.
this can only be opposed metaphysically by rejecting egalitarianism. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:55 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story The truth is that there were essentially zero silverbugs until the past ten or twenty years -- instead you had a large number of proles who kept their wealth in silver because they couldn't afford gold. As such, this silver push is simply poormo mental illness being pushed on defenseless proles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669624) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:57 PM Author: silver swashbuckling center brb buying more silver (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669627) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:57 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner actually the central bankers control the weather, gender, and everything else. so stop resisting and take the blackpill bud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669628) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:59 PM Author: silver swashbuckling center the central bank owners are superimposed over the cult of egalitarianism but are not in control of it. you would understand this if you Read the Outline.
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Date: May 17th, 2024 1:03 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner it's hard to read something in depth that you know to be untrue. i did skim it pretty thoroughly though. but it would be like if i gave you a flat earth manifesto. i won't press the issue since you already know my position, but to me it's like reading a manifesto about how wet streets cause rain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669636) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 1:03 PM Author: silver swashbuckling center fair enough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669637) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:41 PM Author: Harsh pearly sex offender twinkling uncleanness That is the designated political distraction of 2024 and so they're dealing with theyre expected to do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669605) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:59 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner it's been the designated political distraction for some time. it's a manufactured fringe wedge issue. and even relatively high iq places like xo take the bait. that's the real blackpill about all this. the ruling class has enough useful idiots on both sides that they can keep them fighting against each other forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669632) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 1:55 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story I disagree that it's merely a 'manufactured fringe wedge issue' or a 'distraction'. The distinction between male and female is one of the most basic manifestations of human social hierarchy. The truth of 'male and female' is like the truth of right and wrong, true and false, beautiful and ugly - an acceptance of transsexuals, who 'subvert the natural order', is obviously at odds with a worldview that embraces traditional hierarchies, the natural order, and the strength of men.
Of course, this ensures that the people who care about it end up Losers, consigned to the dustbin of history, etc. From my perspective as an ardent bioleninist, it is a fundamental weakness of the mindset. But it's definitely principled, and a necessary principle to hold unless you want to have different basic principles. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 2:32 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner i don't see how this is any more profound than something than religious tolerance, racial tolerance, etc. whether a vanishingly small percentage of the population identifies as trans is less impactful to society than, say, believing in different fundamentalist religions with different moral codes. and we managed to get through that. and there was the same panic that religion x or race y or whatever was going to upset the apple cart.
i've come to find that most adult trannies i have met are reasonable like you. they tend to have pretty balanced views on shit care for children, college sports, bathrooms, etc. these are the issues where divisiveness exists. and i say it's manufactured because i see mostly white lib allies claiming that denying bottom surgery to pre-teens is literally trans genocide. most trannies seem to be mostly want to just be left alone and tolerated.
ready to be schooled if i'm off base here as my views are primarily informed the edgy irl communities i'm in that have trans people. the ones that seem the most extreme, if they are even trans, seem to be the type that are going through a phase and won't be trans when it's no longer cool to be. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 3:25 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story Cultures and religions coexist by giving up pieces of their all-encompassing worldview. Even the most extreme Islamist jihadi, if they want to live in society, gives up the idea that they can live the Sharia paradise they can imagine, even in their own home with their own wives (of which only one can be legally registered as his). Or they get booked on some domestic violence charge, or commit suicide by cop, or whatever.
The modern idea of a 'transgender person' requires every single person that interacts with that person to affirm this belief on pain of ostracization, civil liability, etc. Not even a lowly prole manager can be left alone to bully their trans employee by calling them the wrong name, pronouns, whatever. Giving Jews Saturday off is not even remotely comparable.
I compare transsexuals to an aristocracy for this reason. A samurai insulted by a commoner, e.g. by a failure to apologize after bumping into them, could cut him down immediately, no matter how rich the commoner or lowly the samurai. Is being misgendered so much more different than a bump? There are many arguments about this re: the n-word as well, of course, but that's really more of an arcane invocation of a history of submission, humiliation, defeat, etc. and is understandable imho.
Of course, to a normal person, pronouns and names really don't mean all that much, and so calling someone a woman who kind of looks like a woman and who dresses like a woman is perfectly reasonable and this issue never comes up. But if you have the view that the social treatment associated with a person's biological sex at birth is an unimpeachable Truth that can never change, it is a torturous incongruity to live with.
In this sense, I do agree that the issue is exacerbated by libs, because trying to push the idea that you should call someone like that British guy who shits himself and rapes women a woman is kind of lol. But it's definitely reasonable if you're a 'rw bro' to fight on the trans issue even for passable trannies. No one likes to feel like they are being forced to lie. Even worse if you feel like you're basically being forced into participating in someone's sex fetish. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 3:38 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner social ostracization sure but you're dreaming of you think there is any chance there will be anything beyond that in our lifetimes. no should there be, with good reason. if you gave government the power to regulate speech in such a way (civil liability requires government enforcement) then it would be a disaster. if we gave them that power 15 years ago we would have outlawed all the trans shit you love. and it's a violation of human liberty. a person will never be compelled to say a man is a woman any more than they will be compelled to say jesus is lord, women are unequal, and blacks aren't human. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670019) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 3:55 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story There is tremendous civil liability associated with misgendering a tranny at work. There are some decisions that protect misgendering, but someone who takes adverse employment action against that person after misgendering them will have a real fun time trying to argue that they weren't doing it as a form of discrimination. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670029) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 4:03 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner which aligns completely with how we treat race, religion, sexuality, etc. that i mentioned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670039) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 4:17 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story Besides the fact that from their point of view it has been a disaster (c.f. https://zerohplovecraft.substack.com/p/dagon ), not calling someone the n-word is a little different from affirmatively being forced to gender someone correctly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670049) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 4:32 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner i agree, the former is far worse. i am not reading that idiots substack. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670078) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 4:33 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story It's just a cute short story. I think you would empathize. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670080) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 4:36 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner i will check it out later. i'm going on D8NITE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670101) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 4:38 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story Send her my best wishes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670112) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 4:39 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670115) |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 4:18 PM Author: Cerebral Alcoholic School It goes beyond a wedge issue when actually people are being physically damaged in ever increasing numbers. I’m looking forward to seeing what all these damage people do in 10 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47677430) |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 4:30 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner there's a lot of common ground to be found here as lots of trannies are to the right of many even in the GOP or some of this stuff. unfortunately usually the debate begins and ends with trans -> woodchippers for many xoxo types. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47677482) |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 4:45 PM Author: Cerebral Alcoholic School It used to be pretty rare and confined to adults. That’s what changed. I knew a troon who “transitioned “ about 40 years ago and even zhe thinks this new shit is all a farce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47677535) |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 9:15 PM Author: vibrant mauve idiot gunner exactly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47678257) |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 4:17 PM Author: Cerebral Alcoholic School Except now it’s literally headed to the Supreme Court and could become the law everywhere because people wouldn’t speak out or were afraid of speaking out. . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47677427) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 2:35 PM Author: Buck-toothed Old Irish Cottage i thought it was an open secret that the young right was either a) jewish and gay, b) feds, or c) both (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669769) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 2:36 PM Author: Dead sweet tailpipe Is this why TBF tacked so hard to the "right" post-2016? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47669772) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 4:19 PM Author: Saffron kitchen background story He said YOUNG right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47670051) |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 4:08 PM Author: Cerebral Alcoholic School 1.) transgender isn’t a thing 2.) Transgender hardly even happens 3.) Your 14 year old daughter gets to shower with her male 18 year old teammate. Here’s why that’s a good thing. |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 4:13 PM Author: Poppy Rigpig Jfc, where did that happen? SF? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47677409) |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 4:19 PM Author: Cerebral Alcoholic School Madison, Wisconsin Dubuque Iowa.
Pretty much everywhere |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 9:58 PM Author: sadistic dingle berry multi-billionaire Damn, even Dubuque? I hadn’t even heard about that one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47678403) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 11:49 AM Author: Saffron kitchen background story (aching to get embroiled in drama over transsexuals on a right-wing forum) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47679730) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 12:35 PM Author: Cerebral Alcoholic School It's far beyond just a narrow drama when we have people all over the country taking this shit to court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47679888) |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 4:26 PM Author: Cerebral Alcoholic School You better let trannies do what they want or they might set themselves on fire or throw a hand grenade into your kids playground. Back away slowly from the tranny. Do not engage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529515&forum_id=2/#47677470) |