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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
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fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry
  12/17/25
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fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution
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Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Fantasy-prone snowy office associate
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
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Fantasy-prone snowy office associate
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Nofapping carnelian preventive strike depressive
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
drab den electric furnace
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Rough-skinned laughsome casino mental disorder
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Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
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fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
iridescent azn national
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Galvanic Maroon Alpha
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Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit
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iridescent azn national
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fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution
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fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Harsh public bath
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone snowy office associate

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone snowy office associate



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Nofapping carnelian preventive strike depressive

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: drab den electric furnace

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Rough-skinned laughsome casino mental disorder

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: iridescent azn national

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Galvanic Maroon Alpha

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Vivacious Fluffy Orchestra Pit



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: iridescent azn national



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal pocket flask institution



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Boyish Geriatric Wrinkle Faggotry

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Harsh public bath

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515738)