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Rate the job prospects of a graduate with a 3.3 GPA JD from Univ of Akron
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Date: December 9th, 2025 2:50 PM Author: Pope Leo XXX know someone in this position (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49496975) |
Date: December 9th, 2025 2:55 PM Author: Ass Sunstein Sky's the limit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49497001) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:34 PM Author: ...,....,,........ Sky is the limit and you know that you keep on Just keep on pressin' on (gotta keep pressin' on) Sky is the limit and you know that you can (Gotta keep movin', gotta keep pressin' on) Have what you want, be what you want |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 2:59 PM Author: grand wizard of yakubian tricknology Attorney-General of the United States (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49497013) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:37 PM Author: larry ellison ((zurich is stained)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501079) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:22 AM Author: Marshall W. Waller (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501589) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:00 PM Author: Pope Leo XXX serious answers or actually good jokes please (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49497022) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:16 PM Author: Pope Leo XXX (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501034) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:21 PM Author: Cinco de Mayo Clinic can get a job at a small firm in Akron, Cleveland, Toledo or Columbus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501040) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:28 PM Author: Josh_Allen Paying $55k, but yes. He won’t starve, but his life will likely be measurably worse than had he skipped law school and been 3 years ahead in his prior career. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501058) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:30 PM Author: Ozzie Canseco yeah after applying for two years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501061) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:33 PM Author: Buy your next house instantly with Zellow! One huge issue is that most shitlaw bosses are woefully ill equipped to hire, manage or pay an associate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501074) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:38 PM Author: Ozzie Canseco theyre are like 15 shitlaw associate jobs in a place like toledo or akron. and 200kmillion jds minted every year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501084) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:10 AM Author: cant believe this moniker wasnt taken that’s what makes it so prestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501571) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:39 PM Author: ...,....,,........ Crushing it in Cleveland or Columbus BIGLAW is pretty 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49506103) |
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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:21 AM Author: Buy your next house instantly with Zellow! How much do those people make? Not XO Biglaw but regional Biglaw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49506414) |
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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:35 AM Author: larry ellison ((zurich is stained)) i was a partner at baker hostetler (dc office). the firm overall is ttt in that they pay market only for first years and only in major markets.
so a first year in dc, ny or la is making $225k and a fourth year probably makes $294k or some random number that is substantially below market.
IIRC first years in clv made way less. when first years were at 190, i think first years in ohio were in the 160 range, maybe closer to 150.
JONES DAY is the #1 firm obviously, with BH #2. i don't think JD pays lockstep, but i've heard their pay is better.
another data point - as a labor atty i worked with the erisa guys regularly. one of the doods in cleveland told me that they lost a really good erisa associate (6-7th year) who DOUBLED her salary going to another biglaw firm. so it's possible that even if a first year makes 180 or 190 in cleveland, they have senior associates barely making 300. |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:23 PM Author: Ting Ting Johnson college doesn't matter anymore lol
it's not going to help or hurt him getting a job. the jobs you get after college now have pretty much nothing to do with what you "studied" and got your "degree" in in college |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:25 PM Author: Buy your next house instantly with Zellow! I hire people like this for my shitlaw firm. I start them out at about 85k a year with limited benefits.
Some of the stories that I hear from these people about previous employers are crazy. I appear to pay way above market for shitlaw associates. Standard comp seems to be mid five figures. However, that number is really more revenue than profit since it typically covers *everything* including CLE's, bar dues, computer, travel, etc. The least that I have encountered was a chick from a shitlaw firm that was dying, who was making 45k. |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:27 PM Author: Josh_Allen I was going to say - these people generally make more like $50-55k starting out. There are effectively unlimited numbers of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501053) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:32 PM Author: Buy your next house instantly with Zellow! I try to hire the cream of the crap. People who aren't going anywhere near Biglaw but are basically competent and will appreciate the opportunity that I have to offer. Overall, it has worked out well, although that can always change. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501066) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 1:28 PM Author: Pope Leo XXX what constitutes 'cream of the crap'? would say a 3.3 from Akron meet the standard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49502205) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 9:58 PM Author: Buy your next house instantly with Zellow! In my state, there is a panoply of TTT law schools. But they are not all the same. One takes kids who can't crack 160 on that LSAT but puts them through a rigorous program and actually has a high bar passage rate. Those kids make awesome shitlawyers. They do a lot of clinics and trial prep classes so I can throw them into working their own cases pretty much right off the bat. It's awesome. Hired on a Monday, making money for me on a Tuesday. They're also really humble and glad to have a job because our state's Biglaw such as it is hires from prestigious schools and looks at graduates of their school like filthy animals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49503460) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:09 PM Author: SneakersSO Is this Case Western Reserve? They train Reserve attorneys imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49503494) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 1:32 AM Author: Ozzie Canseco only on west coast cases iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49503757) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 8:36 PM Author: larry ellison ((zurich is stained)) i was once in a deposition against an employment shitlaw solo and she was questioning a witness and she used the word "pan-opoly" and the witness asked what that word meant, and the lawyer said she didn;t know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49505865) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 9:27 PM Author: Pope Leo XXX what fine institution was she a graduate of (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49505996) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:23 AM Author: Marshall W. Waller Dying literally? Or inside like the rest of us? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501592) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:02 PM Author: Buy your next house instantly with Zellow! Her firm was dying. She was young and attractive. But unshakably committed to living in her small town where she grew up, so she didn't have many options. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49503474) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 2:01 AM Author: tats xo small town girl tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49503773) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 10:47 PM Author: Nazca Redlines Clerk at local county court, then work in small firm for a couple years to learn the ropes, then hang a shingle. That's a decent enough GPA from a decent enough law school that he could definitely make it.
State government sinecure.
Regional law firm or regional law firm to regional in house.
The path isn't as clear as T6 ls->v25 firm, but there are plenty of decent options and outcomes for someone who works hard and takes advantage of opportunities. In a lot of ways, the paths are better than a V25 associate striving for a few years before getting up or outed. The Akron grad will probably have a lake house in 10 years while the t6 grad will be wondering if he can afford kids. |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 1:27 PM Author: Pope Leo XXX how long does it take for him to get the lake house? How much do these guys usually make hanging a shingle and how long does it take for them to plateau, generally speaking (not CSLG level results) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49502202) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Buy your next house instantly with Zellow! There is a huge range of outcomes. Some of these guys, usually chill fratty bros with a little business sense, can do stuff like that within a few years of starting practice. Others are organization men by temperament and would be suited to working in Biglaw, if only they were smarter. They really struggle since the institutions that they join tend to be shittier in many different ways. They never make it to the lake house, or anywhere close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49503482) |
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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:36 AM Author: Nazca Redlines CR. I doubt there would be any difference between a 3.3 Akron grad and a 3.7 gpa OSU grad in terms of who is more likely to make it as a solo. Either one has the baseline intellect, beyond which more raw brainpower doesn't really help. So it'll come down to hustle, work ethic, building connections, charisma. The only difference is that OSU grad can work at Jones Day Cleveland for a few years if he's inclined. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49506468) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:03 AM Author: von metternich's top guy a ton of these guys end up working (directly or indirectly) for the government. Sometimes some general state law bureaucrat job. prosbro or PD. or, closely related running a shoestring private practice and taking indigent runover cases. city attorney's office or mayoral advisor. part-time traffic court judge in some podunk town. ALJ for civil service claims. an unending panoply of opportunity :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501559) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:26 AM Author: SneakersSO Why not just go solo and use AI to fill gaps? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49501596) |
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Date: December 11th, 2025 10:11 PM Author: Buy your next house instantly with Zellow! OP, there are guys like this who just innately get it and take to shitlaw like a duck to water. They can easily make several hundred k a year, and do. There are guys who hate it and commit suicide. It is highly dependent on the person. Average after a decade or two is probably high five/low six figures but that doesn't really mean anything, like saying the average score of two teams in a football game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49503500) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 1:55 AM Author: pube Race? Height? Phenotype? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49503770) |
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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:08 AM Doesn’t everyone make $$$ if they just keep at it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5808398&forum_id=2/#49506447) |