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Poll: Draft by "End of Day" Means 5 pm, 8 pm, midnight, 9 am next day?

Also--your time or their time?
chestnut heaven
  01/05/26
your time eod 12am
Diverse Set
  01/05/26
...
Judgmental spectacular trust fund prole
  01/05/26
Why midnight? Assume you don't have a reason to think the pe...
chestnut heaven
  01/05/26
“Assume you don't have a reason to think the people wa...
violent pisswyrm
  01/05/26
eod = midnight cob = 1700
Unholy national
  01/05/26
...
kink-friendly hissy fit
  01/05/26
Cr
aphrodisiac preventive strike legal warrant
  01/05/26
...
flickering beta fat ankles
  01/05/26
"When it's done"
zombie-like resort idiot
  01/05/26
What if it's not done until after EOD?
chestnut heaven
  01/05/26
Will flip this to you ASAP, thanks
zombie-like resort idiot
  01/05/26
...
dull codepig
  01/05/26
depends on the context. court filing? midnight. in-house? li...
Boyish Scarlet Giraffe
  01/05/26
Court filing is easy insofar as there will be a Local Rule. ...
chestnut heaven
  01/05/26
it depends on your office culture and who else is involved
Boyish Scarlet Giraffe
  01/05/26
Biglaw trannies are also midnight, but 10 pm is far more app...
nudist contagious stain roast beef
  01/05/26
Setting an artificial 4 pm deadline is wild. If someone want...
chestnut heaven
  01/05/26
I’m absolutely swamped with poasts to make
curious shrine pervert
  01/05/26
Yes. The point of the 4 pm deadline is for them to pretend t...
nudist contagious stain roast beef
  01/05/26
2pm if a scientist needs to review it
arousing meetinghouse reading party
  01/05/26
...
kink-friendly hissy fit
  01/05/26
...
Irate bbw plaza
  01/05/26
...
Vibrant brunch
  01/05/26
usually means "within the hour"
emerald internet-worthy orchestra pit love of her life
  01/05/26
9 or 10pm
razzle rehab sex offender
  01/05/26
Why those times? At 9, I might just be logging back on after...
chestnut heaven
  01/05/26
It generally means 5 or 6pm in the requestor’s time zo...
trip bearded idea he suggested
  01/05/26
What is requestor is in Europe? Or you're on west coast, req...
chestnut heaven
  01/05/26
in house it means 5 to 6pm. biglaw it means midnight.
exciting lime hell
  01/05/26
Cr.
cracking well-lubricated dysfunction
  01/05/26
...
drunken thriller school cafeteria coffee pot
  01/05/26
More precisely in biglaw, end of day means “before you...
Vibrant brunch
  01/05/26
There’s going to be more punctuation at the end of tha...
trip bearded idea he suggested
  01/06/26
lol
Vibrant brunch
  01/07/26
At the end of the day, what does it matter?
brass mewling crackhouse
  01/05/26
close of business means by 5pm, but end of day is anytime by...
Cobalt splenetic casino
  01/06/26
You got it reversed
Vibrant brunch
  01/07/26
...
Vibrant brunch
  01/13/26


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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: chestnut heaven

Also--your time or their time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564535)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: Diverse Set

your time eod 12am

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564546)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: Judgmental spectacular trust fund prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564549)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: chestnut heaven

Why midnight? Assume you don't have a reason to think the people waiting on the draft are going to do another turn in the wee hours of the morning. So, at that point, what's the differences with doing (and billing for) a few more hours and sending it at 3 am?

And at that point, what's the difference with waiting to send it at 7 or 8 am, before the next workday starts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564561)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:50 PM
Author: violent pisswyrm

“Assume you don't have a reason to think the people waiting on the draft are going to do another turn in the wee hours of the morning.”

what kind of penny-ante hobbyists are you working across from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564839)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: Unholy national

eod = midnight

cob = 1700

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564552)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: kink-friendly hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564562)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:51 PM
Author: aphrodisiac preventive strike legal warrant

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564673)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: flickering beta fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564678)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: zombie-like resort idiot

"When it's done"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564555)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: chestnut heaven

What if it's not done until after EOD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564564)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: zombie-like resort idiot

Will flip this to you ASAP, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564579)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: dull codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49565826)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Boyish Scarlet Giraffe

depends on the context. court filing? midnight. in-house? like 2pm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564560)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:23 PM
Author: chestnut heaven

Court filing is easy insofar as there will be a Local Rule.

For other work, I don't want to scramble to get things done by 2 pm--especially because it means I might get the next round of comments back the same day. I want to chill while things build up throughout the day, then scramble through several things between about 4:30 and 5:20.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564569)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Boyish Scarlet Giraffe

it depends on your office culture and who else is involved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564624)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: nudist contagious stain roast beef

Biglaw trannies are also midnight, but 10 pm is far more appreciated because it lets others bill easy hours before bed. Inhouse 2 pm is only west coast with east coast audience but most people specify “COB” and that means get it out by 4 your time so others have the option of reviewing before they leave to pick up their kids or after they put their kids to bed (they won’t actually review or respond for at least a week).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564576)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:31 PM
Author: chestnut heaven

Setting an artificial 4 pm deadline is wild. If someone wants to review it that day, they should say so and specify a time. People get jammed up with meetings, multiple agreements to review, poasts to make, etc.

Absolutely CR re "they won’t actually review or respond for at least a week," btw. There are two times for responses--5 minutes after you send and late next week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564589)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: curious shrine pervert

I’m absolutely swamped with poasts to make

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564630)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:42 PM
Author: nudist contagious stain roast beef

Yes. The point of the 4 pm deadline is for them to pretend that they are hardworking and for you to pass your own self-imposed shit test. But the logic of this makes sense the more exposure you have to senior execs/SVPs and other managers of managers who are running large organizations. Most of what they do is at least partially performative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564645)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: arousing meetinghouse reading party

2pm if a scientist needs to review it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564577)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: kink-friendly hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564629)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:06 PM
Author: Irate bbw plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564881)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:45 PM
Author: Vibrant brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49565722)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:35 PM
Author: emerald internet-worthy orchestra pit love of her life

usually means "within the hour"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564613)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: razzle rehab sex offender

9 or 10pm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564647)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:54 PM
Author: chestnut heaven

Why those times? At 9, I might just be logging back on after the kids go to bed. So, getting the draft out before I go to bed matches the EOD and my schedule better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564680)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: trip bearded idea he suggested

It generally means 5 or 6pm in the requestor’s time zone if the person is either important or a client. In other cases it means before they log on the next morning.

Worst thing you can do is send it early enough to get comments back that night, after you’ve rushed to get it out, screwed off online for 90 mins to recuperate, and finally turned to the other work you were supposed to get done yesterday/today/last week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49564828)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 6:09 PM
Author: chestnut heaven

What is requestor is in Europe? Or you're on west coast, requestor is on east coast?

In either of those cases, it should mean before they log on the next morning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49565016)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:29 PM
Author: exciting lime hell

in house it means 5 to 6pm. biglaw it means midnight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49565377)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:26 PM
Author: cracking well-lubricated dysfunction

Cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49565691)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: drunken thriller school cafeteria coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49565821)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: Vibrant brunch

More precisely in biglaw, end of day means “before you go to bed and before I wake up.” But you better gird your ass if you misjudge that and get a “Where is the draft?” at 4 am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49565681)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:13 PM
Author: trip bearded idea he suggested

There’s going to be more punctuation at the end of that 4am email

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49567806)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Vibrant brunch

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49569664)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: brass mewling crackhouse

At the end of the day, what does it matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49565824)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:15 PM
Author: Cobalt splenetic casino

close of business means by 5pm, but end of day is anytime by midnight for biglaw and by tomorrow dawn for mid-tier firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49567815)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 3:06 PM
Author: Vibrant brunch

You got it reversed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49569669)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 10:42 PM
Author: Vibrant brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2/#49587793)