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Trump admin filed reply brief in birthright citizenship case
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Date: March 21st, 2026 9:15 PM Author: hairless dun rigpig https://x.com/bhweingarten/status/2034747530282438941?s=46 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49760465) |
Date: March 21st, 2026 9:37 PM Author: hairless dun rigpig The Trump admin has filed its reply brief in the birthright citizenship case before the Supreme Court. It opens:
The “main object” of the Citizenship Clause was to grant citizenship to freed slaves and their children, whose allegiance to the United States had generally been established through generations of parental domicile. By contrast, aliens who are just passing through the United States, and those who cross our borders illegally, lack ties of allegiance and do not obtain the “priceless and profound gift” of citizenship for their children.
To receive citizenship under the Clause, a person must be both born “in the United States” and “subject to the jurisdiction thereof…” That language grants citizenship to children “completely subject” to the United States’ “political jurisdiction.” Children of temporarily present or illegal aliens do not qualify because their parents are not domiciled in, and thus do not owe the requisite allegiance to, the United States. Temporarily present aliens are by definition not domiciled here, while illegal aliens lack the legal capacity to form such a domicile. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:04 PM Author: Amber 180 stock car base I like that argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49762328) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:07 PM Author: lemon judgmental lodge rofl wtf is this shit did they have a DOJ MAGA intern write this shit
"allegiance to the United States had generally been established through generations of parental domicile" --- rofl so by this rationale, is ANYONE a furking citizen? everyone at some point had an ancestor who HAD NOT been in the US for generations
and the "domicile" shit ljl if they arent domiciled in US can they be arrested for shoplifting or other crime?
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Iridescent Heady Liquid Oxygen Macaca It's called CON law for a reason, and it's not because it's conservative (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49762407) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:01 PM Author: Submissive fanboi hall speak for your self Rishi. nothing but sailing ships in my history.
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:09 PM Author: Abusive church incel you're such an indian mud person. You'd have the exact opposite take if India was rapidly becoming white and whitey was trying to claim they were REAL indians. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763030) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:31 PM Author: Sticky autistic field marketing idea sounds 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763081) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:35 PM Author: thriller dead point halford 1. why would we assume descendants of those enslaved by a country would be loyal to that very country?
2. i thought domicile was presence and intent to remain. why can't a non-citizen be domiciled in the US even if staying in the US indefinitely would be illegal? presumably, this isn't the definition of domicile used in federal courts for diversity jurisdiction when one of the litigants is a non-US citizen. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:46 PM Author: sapphire background story loyalty as a concept is irrelevant here
also how u determine intent for where someone stays |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:47 PM Author: walnut philosopher-king shrine Another slam dunk argument from VoteRepublican tp
A veritable Digital Socrates |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:55 PM Author: Khaki Orchestra Pit the brief's argument includes "lack ties of allegiance", so they are certainly making loyalty an issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763122) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 4:06 PM Author: sapphire background story who get persecuted for espionage? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763141) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 4:56 PM Author: Khaki Orchestra Pit what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763274) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 5:07 PM Author: sapphire background story what mean you? are you talking of parent or the kid itslef? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763312) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 5:02 PM Author: walnut philosopher-king shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763290) |
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Date: March 21st, 2026 10:04 PM Author: hairless dun rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49760619) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:03 PM Author: hairless dun rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49762321) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:06 PM Author: Green frum market not even TTThomas will buy this BS. He’ll find some other way to rule in Trump’s favor but this isn’t it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49762339) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:07 PM Author: lemon judgmental lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49762343) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:08 PM Author: aromatic carmine old irish cottage I find briefs like this to be kind of pointless. It's not like the justices are going to be swayed by these things, they have their own ideas and clerks to research these questions. They're going to rule however they like and I can't see these briefs doing much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49762348) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:22 PM Author: walnut philosopher-king shrine This but for literally all of "law" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49762421) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:59 PM Author: Iridescent Heady Liquid Oxygen Macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49762563) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:29 PM Author: grizzly state boistinker there's a very respectable argument along those lines. Peter Schuck of Yale, not at all a conservative, wrote it out in op-eds, serious articles, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763075) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:15 PM Author: hyperactive alcoholic resort stare decisis in those born before (not so long ago) fuck the rest of them |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:31 PM Author: Khaki Orchestra Pit can someone translate this gibberish to english? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763078) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:46 PM Author: sapphire background story i dont think anyone with option want the usa cit only poors n shit so who cares (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763104) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:26 PM Author: grizzly state boistinker there is a strong case that Congress can regulate BRC, but i don't see how the POTUS can do it on his own. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49762646) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:32 PM Author: Sticky autistic field marketing idea i think its more than "strong" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763083) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:43 PM Author: grizzly state boistinker agreed. Peter Struck (Yale) has laid out the case convincingly in op-eds, serious articles, and even a book as i recall.
pro-BRC people say "the text is simple and complete," but from day one significant groups of people born in the US were automatically denied BRC and everyone knew that that was ok. |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:50 PM Author: Sticky autistic field marketing idea if you actually took all of congress and got them aligned on something couldnt they just impeach their way through the whole federal government including the judiciary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848419&forum_id=2/#49763114) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:55 PM Author: grizzly state boistinker true, but SCOTUS would step aside before that was necessary, i think.
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:58 PM Author: grizzly state boistinker https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-question-of-birthright-citizenship
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20150429/103384/HHRG-114-JU01-Wstate-GragliaL-20150429.pdf
libs attacked them for the argument. a classic political hit job postured as journalism:
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Date: March 29th, 2026 10:54 AM Author: grizzly state boistinker this Minnesota law professor, Ilan Wurman, is getting some attention for his argument that children of illegals don't get birthright citizenship.
https://journals.law.harvard.edu/jlpp/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2026/02/49.Wurman.pdf
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