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Date: December 14th, 2025 10:32 AM Author: curious medicated station what does this portend for the State of Gaming? Resident Evil Requiem will let you play as Leon too. And this Larian trailer was Alpha as fuck:
https://youtu.be/VxzyVeAG00w?si=EZkVdxWoXENa41jP |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office Mega Man sits in the room and no one sees it. Mega Man 11 shipped. It worked. It knew what it was. It did not beg. It did not explain itself in a dev diary voice thick with excuses. It did not wear the sackcloth of irony. It did not kneel before the altar of trauma. It ran. It jumped. It demanded timing. It asked for hands, not feelings.
So it vanished.
The West only understands two lies now. AAA and Indie. One is bloated and apologetic. The other is small and smug. One hides incompetence behind money. The other hides incompetence behind charm. They point at each other and call it discourse.
Mega Man fits neither lie. It is neither slop nor sob story. It is a game made by adults who remember craft. It is authored without self-hatred. It is Japanese in the old way. Not aesthetic. Not cosplay. Disciplined. Mechanical. Precise. A thing made to be played, not forgiven.
Westerners cannot process this.
Their AAA is provincial excess. Committees. Engineers who cannot tune a jump arc. Designers who fear friction like sin. They drown failure in spectacle, then call it ambition. When it collapses they blame the audience. They always blame the audience.
Their indies are provincial poverty. One idea stretched thin and sanctified by vibes. Bad controls excused as “intimate.” Repetition renamed “meditative.” A generation of men who cannot ship a boss fight without a blog post explaining their childhood.
“Look,” they cry. “Stardew Valley.” As if agriculture were mechanics. As if chores were design.
Mega Man offers no alibi. It does not flatter. It does not perform politics. It does not apologize for being hard, or easy, or clean. It introduces a system. It asks you to learn it. If you fail, it waits. Cold. Fair. Silent.
This terrifies the West.
Because competence is the one thing they cannot fake.
So the game becomes a ghost. It exists, but it cannot be discussed. It breaks the false dichotomy. It exposes the scam. A functional, authored, mid-budget game with no Western guilt and no Western bravado. No DEI sermon. No Kickstarter confession. Just gears, timing, death, retry.
They would rather argue about budgets. They would rather argue about representation. They would rather argue about anything that keeps them from admitting the truth.
Mega Man is what gaming looks like when adults do the work.
That is why the provincial purveyors of Bad Games pretend it never happened. |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:20 PM Author: out-of-control point Great screed but held back a bit by the fact that MM11 was pretty mid and not worthy of this level of melodrama. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49508915) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office That's the nature of the zeitgeist and what I want you to understand.
In the state of gaming there is a hegelian dialectic which manifests. False dichotomies stabilize an era. They give everyone a place to stand. Cartridge versus CD. AAA versus indie. Craft versus spectacle. These oppositions feel permanent only because nothing has yet arrived to exploit them. Then a game appears that feeds on the contradiction itself. This is the dialectic in action. Not synthesis as compromise, but synthesis as annihilation of the frame.
FF7 did not argue for CDs over cartridges. It used the excess of the CD to expose the limits of restraint. Cinematic scale became memory, memory became expectation, and the industry reoriented around it. Nintendo did not lose a technical debate. It was bypassed by history.
AAA and indie define themselves against each other. One justifies bloat through budget. The other sanctifies austerity as virtue. The argument sustains both. Then games like Expedition 33 to tear through it. The Absolute State of Game Prices torn asunder. $50 GOTY, arriving at just the right time. Marketed as indie, because it technically is. You need to understand imho that the state of gaming lives in contrived dichotomies. Sega vs Nintendon't. Cartridges vs CDs. Badass western games vs passe JRPGs. Nintendo vs. all. When something comes along that breaks these false dichotomies, the state of gaming is torn asunder and redefined. And the moment exists only contemporaneously. Zoomers dgaf about FF7. Future Gens won't care about expedition 33. These are not Games. They are Syntheses imho. |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:44 AM Author: out-of-control point Nigga this is a bunch of horse-shit because there is no "dichotomy" between Mega Man 11 and "westerners." MM11 is literally the most westernized mainline Mega Man game ever made.
You *start* with an infinite slow-mo power up that doesn't even need energy to recharge. You start with the Rush Coil rather than having to find it. And worst of all, MM11 has a "bolt shop" where you can buy powerups, extra lives, and persistent equipment using bolts that you can grind by...dying...and collecting the same ones over and over again.
In other words, you clearly have not played MM11 because the game is the complete opposite of what you portray it as. In real Mega Man games, every single advantage is earned. Every victory deserved. Touch the spikes in Bubble Man's stage for the 100th time? Fuck you, back to the beginning. Want power ups? Find the secrets in the levels or kill some bosses. Can't do it? You don't get shit. The games did not care whether or not you beat them.
Mega Man 11, by contrast, vomits unearned advantages all over the player until he can bulldoze his way to the end of the level through the sheer weight of his ill-gotten boons. The difficulty isn't tuned to match. I know this because the "bolt shop" pissed me off so much when I saw it--being the complete antithesis of Mega Man--that I entirely refused to use it. But the game wasn't any harder than a classic Mega Man even without those powerups. And the same for the slowdown power. There might be 1-2 places in the entire game that are rough without it. Its inclusion is pure western excess. |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:27 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office Mega Man 7 had the bolt shop. I think 8 did too. Rockman & Forte had it and it’s so Far Eastern it didn’t even get a western release. What were you saying? The PS1 X games have something similar iirc.
Also the difficulty purist stuff doesn’t make sense. Mega Man games are only hard compared to Mario etc. compared to badass western made games they’re a walk in the park.
Btw the post you’re replying to is about FF7 and shit, try to stay on topic, champ. |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:23 PM Author: curious medicated station I was confused about the lack of fanfare around Mega Man 11. The game is great. And now people are saying they are underwhelmed by this new reveal because it is the Same and they want Mega Man 3DX or something. It’s all so tiresome cowshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49508926) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:39 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office I played it. It couldn't really be better. imo some of the problem is graphics. no one really wants to see 3d graphics on a 2d plane. But you can't draw OG mega man in anime and have it resonate with people. But they could do a 2D mega man X9 with PS1 graphics and decent production value and imo it'd resonate with the 2 Million Losers worldwide who'd buy that sort of thing. And they could have it appeal to westerners by having Fatalities you can do whenever you beat a boss.
edit: especially if they improve the movement like they did with Metroid Dread. idk what Engineering aspects allow that game to have better control than like any 2D game I can think of iirc. |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:00 PM Author: Arousing liquid oxygen fortuitous meteor Wow didn't know about this. Mega Man 11 was 180 imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49508867) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:03 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office It launches in 2027. don't know why. I read somewhere that Mega Man 7 was made in 3 months. and that's with a new console/sprites and stuff. The State of Game Budgets and Development Timelines takes no prisoners and that includes side scrollers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49508872) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:55 PM Author: swashbuckling pit toaster I actually laughed when I saw the "2027" timeline. Fully expected it to say "Q1 2026" or something. How does it take this long to make something like this.
And then you think about the 90s and how FF7 came out in 1997 and then FF8 came out just two years later. LJL |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:59 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office Literally nobody knows. In the west we can explain it because of Gen. Gen X white guys were efficient af and worked 100 hours a week for years for like $27k/year in 2000 without complaining. This means that Metroid Prime 1 grossed like $150,000,000k against a budget of like $6,000,000k. When margins are that high it's easy to just let things slide and hire another 100 people to do nothing if you think it'll help make the business more stable. but in the process of adding all of these useless processes and people, imho everything gets slowed the fuck down. Discuss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509003) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:08 PM Author: swashbuckling pit toaster Yeah I mean when gaming wasn't mainstream, it was still a big business. So it benefitted from the fact that it attracted truly talented "losers" who cared about making something great for the sake of it (and who had the ability to do so.) This was probably a 10 - 15 year timeframe in which we got some of the best games ever made.
As gaming grew and became more mainstream (early-to-mid 2000s), it started to attract less talented people. This coincided with the proliferation of tools that make it easier to make a game (not necessarily a good game), which in turn opened the door to talentless women in gaming. And since they are women, they care more about surface level solipsisms instead of creating a work with any depth. (If they are even. capable of depth to begin with.)
Finally, the ability to monetize games beyond the initial sale allowed publishers to grow revenue and margins for a time, driven by MBA types who joined these companies after gaming became mainstream. This added revenue and margin from subscription fees and in-game purchases and what-not allowed for staffs to balloon in size, thus further diluting the talent involved in making games. Obviously this was a cash grab that has killed the proverbial Golden Goose of gaming.
As you have pointed out previously, some see indie games as the answer. But even most indie games are drek because tools make it too easy to make The Same Game. We are really only saved by Japanese game companies at this point. |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:22 PM Author: curious medicated station Don’t forget hypercompetent consortiums of Gen X Euros like Larian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509064) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:33 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office The truth that no one will admit imho. You have a million Reddit threads asking this question and they just give circular reasoning and that AAA budgets are immense because of the size of the teams. And that budget drives the size of the team. Subthread locked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509235) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:45 PM Author: swashbuckling pit toaster It's crazy. Though a lot of Reddit people do not understand second order consequences, so it might just go over their heads.
The other element here is that employment law in the US makes it very, very difficult to just hire white nerds who want to make a great game with depth of character and story. It's basically illegal unless you have a company with fewer than 30 people.
As it becomes easier to make indie games that rival AAA games in "quality" (graphics and production values), this may change. But we'll be digging through piles of shit in the interim. |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:06 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office You can get around the employment law thing by just being a large publisher that uses and abuses small devs imo. Also if you're a lawyer you might realize that black letter law isn't all that constraining in most states. The issue is that libs/HR Women imagine it to be so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509298) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: swashbuckling pit toaster Yeah, but the companies that have the deep pockets to get around the employment law BS are also the ones filled with the insane DEI-obsessed HR shrews. So it's a bit of a circular issue.
Would probably help if any of the really big AAA companies were led by founders with the requisite willpower needed for this. |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:23 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office I have a law degree and an MBA imho. you don't even have to file an EEO-1 report unless you have 100 or more FTEs. and most of the applicants are going to be white Nerds anyway. companies are like 8x more likely to hire a Woman for any job. If you just hire people in proportion to their qualifications you'll look Paleoconservative af. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509335) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:58 PM Author: Arousing liquid oxygen fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509289) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:00 PM Author: curious medicated station There might be more to that game than meets the eye. Like yeah it is a 2D side scroller but it might have complex physics or something for all we know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509009) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:01 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office imo they just started working on it, that's all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509015) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:03 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office Aren't you a System Designer or something? Explain why 35 Gen X guys made Metroid Prime 1, but Prime 4 took 120,00 devs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509021) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:06 PM Author: curious medicated station It’s just corporate rot imo. There are so many people we don’t know what to do with so we have to give them Fake Jobs that slow everyone else down. This was a problem even before AI hit the scene. It’s why I say that AI won’t “replace jobs” because they are all artificial and fabricated to an intellectually dishonest purpose anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509032) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:10 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office Why don't devs just follow the old system where "developers" were hapless Nerds working 100 hours a week that got exploited/bankrupt and "publishers" were the more permanent entity that exploited them? You can't have "rot" if you're just 35 Nerds getting paid through a shell company. Imho the reason for this is they needed a sustainable way to make the Same Game. Like the 90s-00s way works if you just want to get One Game out and dgaf what happens after. If enough Nerds survive to make another game, sure, give them another game to make. But the desire to make the Same Game over and over again requires more sustainable business practices. Discuss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509041) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:41 PM Author: curious medicated station those Nerds are making indie games now and you refuse to Accept It. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509255) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:53 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office Westerners always sucked at making games though. They are so Nerd-dominated that they see the enterprise as a success if the Engineering works. They dgaf about gameplay imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509283) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: curious medicated station you were never into the early CRPGs or you wouldn't say this - Fallout, Diablo, Baldur's Gate all very deep and rewarding games. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509300) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:24 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office played Diablo in the 90s iirc and 2 not much later. yeah it's a triumph. it's 1 of the best 100 games of all time. like 90 of them are Japanese probably. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509339) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:54 PM Author: Arousing liquid oxygen fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509286) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:15 PM Author: Exciting nowag Mega man might be one of the most overrated series.
I played MM3 this weekend for a bit. Just meh |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:19 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office doodikoff you tool, you are not qualified to weigh in on this because you can't beat any of them. Also, because you're Gen X, you have poor taste in music and the quality of the OST is lost on you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509056) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Exciting nowag I beat like two mega man Titles back in the day, Champ. I’m qualified here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49509952) |
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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:39 AM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office You probably beat MM2 on the lower western difficulty and that’s it lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49510613) |
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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:59 PM Author: curious medicated station doodikoff you just gonna take this crap? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49511272) |
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Date: December 15th, 2025 1:19 PM Author: Exciting nowag No. He doesn't know what he is talking about
And Yes I think it was MM1 and MM2
I played some MM3 this past weekend on my AYN Thor - it sucked |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:02 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office How does it suck? You suck if anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49515317) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 10:09 AM Author: curious medicated station Maybe he’s more of a Rayman guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49516255) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 10:10 AM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office Rayman 1 on Saturn maybe. Oh wait he’s Afraid of Saturn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49516258) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 4:35 PM Author: out-of-control point lmao the bosses in MM2 die in just a few hits in the shitty western version. and you didnt beat megaman 1. don't lie. i'd say you cheated and used the pause trick on the dissapearing block guy but I know you didn't get that far. you probably couldn't even get to guts man and just kept falling off the platforms (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49517376) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:13 PM Author: curious medicated station devastating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49517470) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 10:14 AM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office Btw no millennial admits this but 90s games on SNES/PS1/N64 were all easy af, like we were total pussies. I remember renting mega man X and getting my ass kicked. But it’s not even hard at all by modern western indie or fromsoft standards and if you aren’t a pussy or doodikoff you can get through them all nbd. Anyway this is not acknowledged in the zeitgeist
Like hard games existed but were relegated to PC and ports of PC games made by western Nerds. Also “legacy” games like battletoads games ported to SNES were hard af.
Anyway, the point is that mega man games have exquisite Japanese Engineered gameplay that is lost on doodikoff imho |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 6:17 PM Author: curious medicated station the original Tomb Raider games were hard as fuck iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49517656) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office Those were so badly made that I just don’t even get it. Just badly Engineered. Don’t get how anyone progressed in them unless it was a months long obsession (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49517826) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 3:05 PM Author: out-of-control point I beat Tomb Raider 1 on the Sega Saturn, which had even worse engineering. It did take a fair bit of time because the graphics were so bad it was hard to see some ledges and every jump had to be crudely lined up with tank controls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49522996) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:00 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office I have the remaster and even with modern controls, it’s horrible. Tell us more about your Saturn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49523993) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:01 PM Author: Arousing liquid oxygen fortuitous meteor Nah bullshit mega man 8 on ps1 is hard AF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810138&forum_id=2/#49523998) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:05 PM Author: nofapping carnelian principal's office It has one bullshit bicycle level. It’s nbd as a whole iirc.
Mega Man and Bass as mega man is the hard one actually. |