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the REAL reason Americans eat sweet corn as a staple is really fucking sad

Indians never grew sweet corn as a staple. They considered i...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
why the fuck are you babbling about corn so much today?
violent office prole
  01/05/26
he's a schizo freak, he babbles all day every day
cerebral parlor newt
  01/05/26
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Aromatic submissive faggot firefighter community account
  01/05/26
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cocky range
  01/06/26
Finally a sweet treat masterman weighs in
offensive pink locus
  01/06/26
i enjoy the whimsy of NSAMs schizo obsessions. i mean, who c...
cocky range
  01/06/26
...
Navy exhilarant step-uncle's house roommate
  01/06/26
what the fuck are you talking about? corn meal and all sorts...
magenta brethren doctorate
  01/05/26
https://www.quakeroats.com/products/more-products-from-quake...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
yeah, that's field corn, a good example of how you are wrong...
magenta brethren doctorate
  01/05/26
Whatever the fuck this is they don't eat it in Mexico htt...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
i assume they do, just because you have been wrong about eve...
magenta brethren doctorate
  01/05/26
what do you know, our lowest IQ poster is wrong again: ht...
magenta brethren doctorate
  01/05/26
ever hear of elote?
cocky range
  01/06/26
woah! where does polenta fit into all of this?!
Thriller Quadroon
  01/05/26
For 12,000 years it was made with without maize
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
for 12,000 years ppl also wiped their assholes without toile...
violent office prole
  01/05/26
https://youtube.com/shorts/zd7bIaqYxLc?si=KchyeAZ7u2sdTh1A
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
real tortillas are made with flour and not corn anyways. lol...
violent office prole
  01/05/26
what about poblano peppers? do they not have a place?
Insanely creepy stage
  01/05/26
Its not a fucking 'staple' and we're able to have sweet corn...
floppy area son of senegal
  01/05/26
It's in are Coca-Cola and are fuel tanks. It's absolutely a ...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
That's high-fructose corn syrup which is NOT made from sweet...
floppy area son of senegal
  01/05/26
It's sugar from corn. That's all we ever wanted. We don't ea...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
Yeah if only we could be more like the Mayans and the Anasaz...
supple reading party toilet seat
  01/05/26
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deep forum
  01/05/26
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Citrine temple
  01/06/26
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electric nudist headpube athletic conference
  01/05/26
thinking about shoving some sweet corn up my ass in honor of...
translucent bearded legend
  01/05/26
link?
orange den
  01/05/26
Anyone?
violent office prole
  01/05/26
this is a man of many interests
Coral angry french chef
  01/05/26
Hitler
bossy pungent ratface
  01/05/26
Here's the real dividing line between the USA and Mexico: ...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
Wtf are you talking about you can find maseca at any grocery...
emerald shrine
  01/05/26
If it's nixtamalized it's gotta have lime listed in the ingr...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
https://www.instacart.com/products/203565 INGREDIENTS: CO...
Flesh mind-boggling corn cake private investor
  01/05/26
MASECA® is one of the many brands of GRUMA (Grupo MASECA...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
and?
emerald shrine
  01/05/26
NSAM: Mexicans don't eat our shitcorn You: shoulda listen...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
" However you can't find any nixtamalized corn products...
emerald shrine
  01/05/26
Whatever birdshit
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
lol
Flesh mind-boggling corn cake private investor
  01/06/26
...
cocky range
  01/06/26
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emerald shrine
  01/06/26
https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/product/masienda-heirloom-b...
emerald shrine
  01/05/26
your thread kind of fell apart when you conflated sweet corn...
deep forum
  01/05/26
Regular corn requires nixtamalization before it can be diges...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
right but the only product Americans eat with sweet corn is ...
deep forum
  01/05/26
All the corn in people's cereal and beer is sweet corn. So i...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
so the reason mexican and gook beer all tastes like pisswate...
violent office prole
  01/05/26
Mexico doesn't make any bad beer. Their shittiest brand is I...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
lol. mexican beer all sucks shit
violent office prole
  01/06/26
Consumers will agree with you any day now!
Rusted pit
  01/06/26
cereal is made of field corn not sweet corn you dumb motherf...
sable plaza
  01/05/26
https://youtube.com/shorts/9yC7mtiMsfU?si=zI9ElUoFOmOGLYo3
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
Another angle here: how widespread was the use of sugar in B...
Coral angry french chef
  01/05/26
The Dutch and the Spanish probably had a lock on the sugar t...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
chocolate as we know it was invented in spain. i fucking dip...
razzle-dazzle garnet volcanic crater space
  01/05/26
is that what you call your dick now?
Insanely creepy stage
  01/05/26
yep, it's easier to pronounce when it's down your throat
razzle-dazzle garnet volcanic crater space
  01/05/26
Spain was ruled by German kings at that time
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
Wow, according to reddit you can't even get real lime in the...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
Corn is so basic to bourbon, it’s a federal law: In or...
Rusted pit
  01/05/26
proving that field corn has been a US staple for centuries, ...
cocky range
  01/06/26
I don't find that particularly sad
apoplectic hall degenerate
  01/06/26


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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Indians never grew sweet corn as a staple. They considered it an oddity that was only used on ceremonial occasions to make sweets. They ate hundreds of varieties of maize and only a few were sweet corn.

The problem is that by the time Europeans arrived here, they were already hooked on sugar from Asia. They kept asking these American Indians "what's good to eat around here" and Indians kept giving them all this maize, but it never worked. The Europeans never said "oh thank you, this is great" until some tribe noticed their sugar addiction and offered them some sweet corn. It was at that point that Europeans finally came to love maize, and now it's ILLEGAL to use other varieties of maize for anything but animal feed and home decor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564565)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: violent office prole

why the fuck are you babbling about corn so much today?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564646)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:41 PM
Author: cerebral parlor newt

he's a schizo freak, he babbles all day every day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564956)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: Aromatic submissive faggot firefighter community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565589)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: cocky range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566161)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: offensive pink locus

Finally a sweet treat masterman weighs in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566617)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: cocky range

i enjoy the whimsy of NSAMs schizo obsessions. i mean, who could ever have predicted SWEET CORN would be one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566163)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Navy exhilarant step-uncle's house roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566539)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: magenta brethren doctorate

what the fuck are you talking about? corn meal and all sorts of other corn products are made from field corn.

people eat unprocessed sweet corn as a meal because it tastes good, unlike a mouth full of bland starch.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564777)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:17 PM
Author: Rusted pit

https://www.quakeroats.com/products/more-products-from-quaker/specialty-items/corn-meal/yellow-corn-meal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564902)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 7:12 PM
Author: magenta brethren doctorate

yeah, that's field corn, a good example of how you are wrong about corn as with every other topic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565175)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:32 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Whatever the fuck this is they don't eat it in Mexico

https://i.imgur.com/sP0sh6l.jpeg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565384)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:19 PM
Author: magenta brethren doctorate

i assume they do, just because you have been wrong about everything else



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565683)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:22 PM
Author: magenta brethren doctorate

what do you know, our lowest IQ poster is wrong again:

https://www.amazon.com.mx/Albers-harina-ma%C3%ADz-amarillo-40/dp/B00NPVK8D0/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565685)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: cocky range

ever hear of elote?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566164)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:24 PM
Author: Thriller Quadroon

woah! where does polenta fit into all of this?!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564573)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:31 PM
Author: Rusted pit

For 12,000 years it was made with without maize

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564590)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:58 PM
Author: violent office prole

for 12,000 years ppl also wiped their assholes without toilet paper and didn't have cable TV or air conditioning. when it was hot out in the summer they would sit in a hot ass room because they had no AC staring at a wall because they had no TV and wiped their assholes with pages from the book of Leviticus when they took a shit because they had no toilet paper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564865)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:25 PM
Author: Rusted pit

https://youtube.com/shorts/zd7bIaqYxLc?si=KchyeAZ7u2sdTh1A

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564920)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:37 PM
Author: violent office prole

real tortillas are made with flour and not corn anyways. lol at eating shitty cattle grade feed corn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564947)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: Insanely creepy stage

what about poblano peppers? do they not have a place?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564634)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:46 PM
Author: floppy area son of senegal

Its not a fucking 'staple' and we're able to have sweet corn all year round because of preservation technology (canning and freezing) instead it being very seasonal. Go munch on some flint corn, Poasts Too Much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564655)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:28 PM
Author: Rusted pit

It's in are Coca-Cola and are fuel tanks. It's absolutely a staple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564766)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:41 PM
Author: floppy area son of senegal

That's high-fructose corn syrup which is NOT made from sweet corn, dumbass. They use enzymes to break down regular starchy corn to glucose, dumbass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564813)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:00 PM
Author: Rusted pit

It's sugar from corn. That's all we ever wanted. We don't eat delicious foods like pozole here because they're not full of sugar.

Interesting fact: Indians didn't have sugar or even honey. They had something like honey but it more of a liquid you drank and it wasn't very sweet. Mayans used cocoa beans as currency but they ate and drank all their chocolate with no sugar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564867)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 9:20 PM
Author: supple reading party toilet seat

Yeah if only we could be more like the Mayans and the Anasazi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565532)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:21 PM
Author: deep forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564912)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Citrine temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566538)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: electric nudist headpube athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564808)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: translucent bearded legend

thinking about shoving some sweet corn up my ass in honor of your cornMEGAPOASTING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564666)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: orange den

link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564786)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: violent office prole

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564788)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:37 PM
Author: Coral angry french chef

this is a man of many interests

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564801)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:14 PM
Author: bossy pungent ratface

Hitler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564897)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:20 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Here's the real dividing line between the USA and Mexico:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixtamalization

Mexicans do that shit to their corn. It's necessary in order to make it nutritious. However you can't find any nixtamalized corn products at Kroger or Safeway or even Whole Foods. Go ahead and try. 100% of the corn we eat is processed some other way.

That's why 100% of our tortillas taste like dogshit. We had to invent flour tortillas to compensate for the shittiness of our corn tortillas, which crumble and fall apart as soon as they touch moisture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564907)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:35 PM
Author: emerald shrine

Wtf are you talking about you can find maseca at any grocery store in the United States

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564938)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:35 PM
Author: Rusted pit

If it's nixtamalized it's gotta have lime listed in the ingredient label. Go ahead and find a pack of corn flour that includes lime on the ingredient label.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564940)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:37 PM
Author: Flesh mind-boggling corn cake private investor

https://www.instacart.com/products/203565

INGREDIENTS: CORN TREATED WITH HYDRATED LIME.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565392)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:06 PM
Author: Rusted pit

MASECA® is one of the many brands of GRUMA (Grupo MASECA®), a Mexican company

https://mimaseca.com/en/about-us/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565756)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:10 PM
Author: emerald shrine

and?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565761)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:13 PM
Author: Rusted pit

NSAM: Mexicans don't eat our shitcorn

You: shoulda listened to NSAM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565766)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:14 PM
Author: emerald shrine

" However you can't find any nixtamalized corn products at Kroger or Safeway or even Whole Foods. "

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565768)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:20 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Whatever birdshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565785)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:28 AM
Author: Flesh mind-boggling corn cake private investor

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566128)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 9:02 AM
Author: cocky range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566176)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: emerald shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566997)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:14 PM
Author: emerald shrine

https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/product/masienda-heirloom-blue-corn-masa-harina-352-oz-b0988zf5s7

https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/product/masienda-organic-corn-tortillas-10-count-9-oz-b0ctb7pcdp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565770)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:23 PM
Author: deep forum

your thread kind of fell apart when you conflated sweet corn with regular corn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564915)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:24 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Regular corn requires nixtamalization before it can be digested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564918)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: deep forum

right but the only product Americans eat with sweet corn is "corn on the cob" sweet corn and canned sweet corn as an added ingredient

all of the products you are MAF about aren't sweet corn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564921)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: Rusted pit

All the corn in people's cereal and beer is sweet corn. So is the corn they use to make whiskey in the south

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564951)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: violent office prole

so the reason mexican and gook beer all tastes like pisswater is because they use shitty corn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564954)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 7:23 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Mexico doesn't make any bad beer. Their shittiest brand is Indio and it's 5000x better than Coors. Their microbrews are all 180 too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565206)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 9:24 AM
Author: violent office prole

lol. mexican beer all sucks shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566229)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 12:25 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Consumers will agree with you any day now!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566573)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 7:16 PM
Author: sable plaza

cereal is made of field corn not sweet corn you dumb motherfucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565183)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:27 PM
Author: Rusted pit

https://youtube.com/shorts/9yC7mtiMsfU?si=zI9ElUoFOmOGLYo3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564922)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: Coral angry french chef

Another angle here: how widespread was the use of sugar in Britain in the early 1600s? Do you suppose the ones who chartered off in search of a better life were swimming in tarts and figgy pudding back home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564929)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: Rusted pit

The Dutch and the Spanish probably had a lock on the sugar trade by then. Britain arrived on the scene later and they seemed more into textiles, tea and opium. Seems like the Europeans with any kind of chocolate culture are in central/northern Europe, and Russia I guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564933)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle garnet volcanic crater space

chocolate as we know it was invented in spain. i fucking dipped a churro in a cup full of 180 chocolate in madrid last week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565434)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: Insanely creepy stage

is that what you call your dick now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565454)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 9:16 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle garnet volcanic crater space

yep, it's easier to pronounce when it's down your throat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565519)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 9:23 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Spain was ruled by German kings at that time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49565538)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:38 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Wow, according to reddit you can't even get real lime in the store, that's why everyone on youtube is making their own:

https://www.reddit.com/r/mexicanfood/comments/1g6kzbh/nixtamal_foodgrade_pickling_lime_vs_builders_lime/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564948)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: Rusted pit

Corn is so basic to bourbon, it’s a federal law: In order to be called bourbon, at least 51% of the grain used to make it must be corn. (Other grains such as barley, rye, and wheat all come in second.)

America has a thing for corn, going back to the first Thanksgiving in 1621, a meal the Pilgrims organized specifically to celebrate their first successful corn harvest. That’s how big a deal corn was.

https://luxrowdistillers.com/blog/bourbon-guide-to-corn/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49564953)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 9:08 AM
Author: cocky range

proving that field corn has been a US staple for centuries, which is what you were arguing against when you created this thread lol

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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:57 AM
Author: apoplectic hall degenerate

I don't find that particularly sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817626&forum_id=2/#49566165)