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Scorching Fifth Circuit dissent - link

https://x.com/jadler1969/status/1991251392816611498?s=20
plum idiotic casino
  11/19/25
heres the actual dissent which is a thousand times more 180 ...
ivory jap
  11/19/25
cr. very xo 2020's poasting twitter images of parts of decis...
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/19/25
Is Jerry a woman? The first 5 pages are just about the write...
Canary Glittery Mood
  11/19/25
honestly we need to pass legislation to limit judicial opini...
ebony hissy fit church
  11/19/25
*your legislation has been struck down as a vialation separa...
Indigo deer antler
  11/20/25
i love it when I have an old school contract or real propert...
racy famous landscape painting
  11/20/25
i got an A in fed courts, but can someone explain to me why ...
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/19/25
3 judge panels are required by statute in certain Voting Rig...
plum idiotic casino
  11/19/25
ty. next q: how does an active non-sr COA judge end up a 3-j...
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/19/25
The case goes to the original Dist. J. to whom it was assign...
Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat
  11/19/25
woah. does any other suit get such procedure?
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/19/25
Yes--Mostly but not entirely voting and elections related
Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat
  11/19/25
This is still law bort
stimulating step-uncle's house candlestick maker
  11/20/25
...
Naked wrinkle
  11/19/25
ty
carnelian effete area twinkling uncleanness
  11/19/25
Comes off ysff, almost as bad as TSINAH
spruce startled hospital
  11/19/25
Blistering!
Electric bawdyhouse
  11/19/25
"How dare they deny me the opportunity to offer my deep...
Shivering mind-boggling native
  11/19/25
It contains tons of thoughtful legal analysis if you’d...
ivory jap
  11/19/25
Wait, it's a Trump judge the dissent reamed? https://afj....
plum idiotic casino
  11/19/25
holy shit wtf
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/19/25
Not only a Trump appointee, but from a highly conservative s...
plum idiotic casino
  11/19/25
very good point. and it also looks like he hawaii judge'd th...
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/19/25
He was on the Texas (Civil) SCOTUS for 6 years, so there wou...
Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat
  11/19/25
Wow. George Soros.
Canary Glittery Mood
  11/19/25
To be fair, 1. Extremely Boomerish dissent. There's no re...
Maroon Stock Car
  11/19/25
This is about as shocking a statement as you'll see in a &qu...
Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat
  11/19/25
yep. he also says 20 times that the majesty of law is fraud ...
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/19/25
This is in the same vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM...
Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat
  11/19/25
wow, is this real
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/19/25
180 autism As he stood in that room describing the handgu...
mustard address elastic band
  11/19/25
i'm reading the berzon concurrence trashing van dyke: htt...
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/19/25
"If, however, there were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Jud...
federal party of the first part
  11/19/25
Wow. I'd love to meet Judge Smith's clerks. Or interview one...
Floppy obsidian knife brethren
  11/19/25
as everyone knows, he hires only 1Ls after one semester of g...
Unhinged kitty cat
  11/20/25
I read the first few pages. The complained-of conduct--at le...
Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat
  11/19/25
I'm sure the opinion is shit but going absolutely BERSERK ov...
Multi-colored alcoholic telephone sex offender
  11/19/25
lol this guy is 180 as shit fuck libs
Fragrant Pozpig Market
  11/19/25
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curious chapel
  11/20/25
page 16: Second, the other factors, discussed below, are ex...
Multi-colored alcoholic telephone sex offender
  11/19/25
...
carnelian effete area twinkling uncleanness
  11/19/25
Fifth Circuit guru says majority op is solid: https://x.c...
plum idiotic casino
  11/19/25
thanks, raffi!
Fear-inspiring rigor
  11/20/25
Where are we at on this, reddit tranny?
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  11/22/25
This is THE DEFINITION of "yosemite sam fuming mad"...
Vengeful cobalt selfie forum
  11/20/25
the image of this guy driving back from a funeral steaming m...
Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth
  11/20/25
This is the type of rage that had to have come in pulsing wa...
Vengeful cobalt selfie forum
  11/21/25
https://files.catbox.moe/vf4g73.mp4
Naked wrinkle
  11/21/25
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/jeffrey-brown-texas...
plum idiotic casino
  11/20/25
the thing is blacks vote 95% dem, so you can never make a po...
Fear-inspiring rigor
  11/20/25
and its also absurd that the court would find an argument th...
ivory jap
  11/20/25
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  11/22/25
or without appearing to specifically favor blacks either.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  11/22/25
Favoring blacks and jews is fine. Favoring whites is wrong. ...
3I/Atlas
  11/22/25
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UhOh
  11/22/25
i get your point and agree that that's what some people and ...
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  11/22/25
Not valid in practice. The only place where adjustments matt...
3I/Atlas
  11/22/25
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  11/22/25


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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: plum idiotic casino

https://x.com/jadler1969/status/1991251392816611498?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444729)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: ivory jap

heres the actual dissent which is a thousand times more 180 than that shitty twitter link:

https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/gov.uscourts.txwd_.1150387.1439.0.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444771)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

cr. very xo 2020's poasting twitter images of parts of decisions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444819)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: Canary Glittery Mood

Is Jerry a woman? The first 5 pages are just about the writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444945)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: ebony hissy fit church

honestly we need to pass legislation to limit judicial opinions to a few pages at most, letting these faggots go on and on is bad for everyone and produces nothing, absolutely nothing, of value

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444826)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 6:25 AM
Author: Indigo deer antler

*your legislation has been struck down as a vialation separation of powers. The SCOTUS opinion is 6-2-1 and 800 cumulative pages.*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445612)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: racy famous landscape painting

i love it when I have an old school contract or real property research project and find these 3 or 4-page opinions from 1921.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49446199)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

i got an A in fed courts, but can someone explain to me why a USDJ is on a 3-judge district court panel with judge smith of the 5th cir?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444830)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: plum idiotic casino

3 judge panels are required by statute in certain Voting Rights Act cases. Was enacted during the Jim Crow era to reduce the likelihood that some biased southern judge would disregard the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444859)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

ty. next q: how does an active non-sr COA judge end up a 3-judge usdc panel?

does this mean he's disqualified from being in the pool to hear the case in the 5th cir? and disqualified from sitting en banc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444882)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:37 PM
Author: Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat

The case goes to the original Dist. J. to whom it was assigned plus 2 judges designated by POTUS of the relevant COA, at least one of whom must be a COA judge.

I presume the COA judge would not be on the panel for the appeal. Maybe he could be sitting en banc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444962)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

woah. does any other suit get such procedure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444967)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat

Yes--Mostly but not entirely voting and elections related

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444978)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 2:03 AM
Author: stimulating step-uncle's house candlestick maker

This is still law bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445485)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Naked wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444987)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: carnelian effete area twinkling uncleanness

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445071)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:06 PM
Author: spruce startled hospital

Comes off ysff, almost as bad as TSINAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444870)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: Electric bawdyhouse

Blistering!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444885)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Shivering mind-boggling native

"How dare they deny me the opportunity to offer my deep and thoughtful legal analysis!"

First sentence of dissent: "The main winners from Judge Brown's opinion are George Soros and Gavin Newsom."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444901)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:15 PM
Author: ivory jap

It contains tons of thoughtful legal analysis if you’d bother to read on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445161)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: plum idiotic casino

Wait, it's a Trump judge the dissent reamed?

https://afj.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Brown-Snapshot-Final.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444919)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

holy shit wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444920)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: plum idiotic casino

Not only a Trump appointee, but from a highly conservative state with a Senator - Ted Cruz - who's normally very careful about ensuring no libs slip through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444932)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:31 PM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

very good point. and it also looks like he hawaii judge'd the biden fraudvax mandate for fed employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444943)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat

He was on the Texas (Civil) SCOTUS for 6 years, so there would have been a strong track record of how he rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444992)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: Canary Glittery Mood

Wow. George Soros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444926)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:29 PM
Author: Maroon Stock Car

To be fair,

1. Extremely Boomerish dissent. There's no reason this couldn't have been trimmed down to 20 pages.

2. Having said that, Jerry Smith has been one of the biggest COA > SCOTUS Feeders for decades. Libs might be laughing now, but this guy unironically has the ear of several SCOTUS Justices and he seems EXTREMELY PISSED about how all of this went down, on every level. When this decision inevitably gets appealed to SCOTUS, I'm not sure things will ultimately turn out the way libs are hoping they will. We'll see what unfolds!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444939)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:39 PM
Author: Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat

This is about as shocking a statement as you'll see in a "scathing" dissent: "I also need to highlight the pernicious judicial misbehavior of U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Vincent Brown."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444968)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

yep. he also says 20 times that the majesty of law is fraud and it's all politics. has any judge said such things in an opinion before?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444976)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat

This is in the same vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMC7Ntd4d4c

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444986)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

wow, is this real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445013)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: mustard address elastic band

180 autism

As he stood in that room describing the handgun, it seemed like any second he was going to casually pan to the side and have a bound and gagged shitlib and clinically explain the handgun's firing mechanism as he blows their brains out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445189)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

i'm reading the berzon concurrence trashing van dyke:

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/03/20/23-55805.pdf

where is she wrong? she kinda seems right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445234)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: federal party of the first part

"If, however, there were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Judge Brown's opinion would be a prime candidate."

I'm going to be thinking about this sentence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444984)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Floppy obsidian knife brethren

Wow. I'd love to meet Judge Smith's clerks. Or interview one or two.

I'd also love to know what the horse-trading there is behind the scenes on this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444985)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: Unhinged kitty cat

as everyone knows, he hires only 1Ls after one semester of grades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49446658)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: Nubile International Law Enforcement Agency Toilet Seat

I read the first few pages. The complained-of conduct--at least the conduct Judge Smith is leading with--is that the majority didn't let him see a draft of their opinion until shortly before they issued it (with a note that Judge Smith would be appending a dissent).

That's it? That's his first and best argument? Who cares?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49444998)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: Multi-colored alcoholic telephone sex offender

I'm sure the opinion is shit but going absolutely BERSERK over drafting practices that the general public doesn't give a shit about dramatically undermines his dissent.

He sounds like some lawyer who brought in biglaw as co-counsel because he couldn't handle the case and is MAF that they filed the MSJ without getting all his edits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445058)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Fragrant Pozpig Market

lol this guy is 180 as shit

fuck libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445016)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:32 AM
Author: curious chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445419)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Multi-colored alcoholic telephone sex offender

page 16: Second, the other factors, discussed below, are extraordinarily week [sic] in this case.

Also page 16: If this were a law school exam, the opinion would deserve an “F.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445063)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: carnelian effete area twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445072)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: plum idiotic casino

Fifth Circuit guru says majority op is solid:

https://x.com/RMFifthCircuit/status/1991174150615081310

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445339)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring rigor

thanks, raffi!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445885)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


Where are we at on this, reddit tranny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49451685)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 1:17 AM
Author: Vengeful cobalt selfie forum

This is THE DEFINITION of "yosemite sam fuming mad".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49445480)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Dark Corner Scourge Upon The Earth

the image of this guy driving back from a funeral steaming maf is hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49446187)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: Vengeful cobalt selfie forum

This is the type of rage that had to have come in pulsing waves. He'd start to calm down -- put down his pen, drawl out a "he's just a fucking fag, into that whole 'perry crew' cocaine and arthouses and experimental gay sex 'thing', fuck 'im" -- and then he'd pick up to finish off a footnote and something would set him off and he'd be back up to yelling at the clerks to tie some fishing line around a dildo "so we can lure that little poofter in here and teach him some fucking manners."

I at least credit his clerks for getting him to remove all the anti-trans slurs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49449379)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 7:58 AM
Author: Naked wrinkle

https://files.catbox.moe/vf4g73.mp4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49449172)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: plum idiotic casino

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/jeffrey-brown-texas-redistricting-00660068

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49446088)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring rigor

the thing is blacks vote 95% dem, so you can never make a politically driven redistricting without it appearing to target blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49446192)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: ivory jap

and its also absurd that the court would find an argument that GOP is intentionally forgoing seats in favor of being able to racially discriminate persuasive. at absolutely no level of the party that makes choices about redistricting is a single person thinking this, and everyone knows it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49446200)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: .,..,.,,.,..,,,.,.,.,..,..,..,.,..,,.,.,.,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49451675)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


or without appearing to specifically favor blacks either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49451709)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: 3I/Atlas

Favoring blacks and jews is fine. Favoring whites is wrong. Read the constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49451723)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: UhOh



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49451791)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


i get your point and agree that that's what some people and judges think.

i just wanted to add that when you adjust a district to make it more likely that a black will be elected, you are simultaneously making it harder for blacks to get elected in adjoining districts and are making black votes less powerful in the adjoining districts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49451824)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: 3I/Atlas

Not valid in practice. The only place where adjustments matter politically is in the 45-55% range. If you take a group's voice from 25 to 20% or 15 to 25%, it doesn't matter for that group's electoral results. Same if you increase their representation from 60 to 65%.

Where you can get in trouble, however, is when you try to over-optimize your safe seats by giving yourself 55% in a bunch of districts, putting the opponent into a single 95% district. That may be optimal some years, but every now and then an electoral shift comes along, and all of your 55% seats turn into 49ers, and the other side shoots the moon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49451900)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2/#49452019)