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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
  12/16/25
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Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
heady aqua site
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
heady aqua site
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
heady aqua site
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
heady aqua site
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
heady aqua site
  12/17/25
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Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut
  12/17/25
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pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
disrespectful arrogant deer antler abode
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
  12/16/25
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disrespectful arrogant deer antler abode
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
outnumbered stock car
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Peach senate
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
hyperactive wagecucks jew
  12/16/25
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pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
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Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
shivering titillating lay athletic conference
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Ruddy queen of the night shrine
  12/17/25
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pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter
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shivering titillating lay athletic conference
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Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut
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Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
heady aqua site
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
spruce effete dilemma party of the first part
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: heady aqua site

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: heady aqua site

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: heady aqua site

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: heady aqua site

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: heady aqua site

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: disrespectful arrogant deer antler abode

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: disrespectful arrogant deer antler abode



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: outnumbered stock car

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Peach senate

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: hyperactive wagecucks jew

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: shivering titillating lay athletic conference

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Ruddy queen of the night shrine

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: pea-brained piazza faggot firefighter



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: shivering titillating lay athletic conference



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Sienna mind-boggling juggernaut



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: heady aqua site

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: spruce effete dilemma party of the first part

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515738)