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Female pilot of Blackhawk that crashed into plane ignore instructor

https://x.com/sav_says_/status/1916534134022844684?s=46 R...
pearl area coldplay fan
  04/27/25
of all the available choices, why would you choose to fly st...
startling mind-boggling school useless brakes
  04/27/25
you will never be a woman
Cowardly dragon toaster
  04/27/25
why would an anyone choose to fly a plane into a helicopter?
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
she was probably punishing her instructor for not fucking he...
Wonderful sadistic ticket booth
  04/28/25
Let's see OP try to fly a Blackhawk, see how it goes lol
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
I can listen to my instructor telling me to turn left. Are ...
pearl area coldplay fan
  04/27/25
I don't think you can, actually. Why do you think these bird...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
Mansplaining in 2025 🙄
Chestnut Glittery Whorehouse
  04/27/25
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house-broken honey-headed gas station
  04/27/25
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mustard curious station queen of the night
  04/28/25
nyuug will bump this thinking it somehow vindicates the Kore...
misunderstood arousing tank
  04/27/25
Because it's SO HARD to find examples of men crashing Blackh...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
lol u sound azn
misunderstood arousing tank
  04/27/25
Yeah, I sound successful and high IQ. You're right.
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
Is he wrong though? Are there examples of men crashing Black...
Fragrant hairless institution pozpig
  04/27/25
into commercial aircraft over US soil? yea, it kind of is y...
sticky beta nibblets
  04/28/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717144&mc=5&am...
metal codepig
  04/27/25
and yet she persisted
Cerebral pistol
  04/27/25
... for a very brief period
metal codepig
  04/27/25
Get back to your xbox
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
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Buff Ratface Affirmative Action
  04/27/25
Jesus OP is lying. The article in the tweet doesn't even say...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
???
misunderstood arousing tank
  04/27/25
ATC "did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Bl...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
"She did not turn left" https://www.nytimes.com...
metal codepig
  04/27/25
"Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
“former military pilots said that by issuing a proacti...
Stimulating angry associate kitty cat
  04/28/25
"see and avoid conditions" that ATC authorized bef...
tan native macaca
  04/28/25
You’re the only one who is using those terms. You lite...
Stimulating angry associate kitty cat
  04/28/25
how many days before the tragic crash do you think the pilot...
Cerebral pistol
  04/27/25
She didn't disobey the co-pilot. RTFA
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
i think i see your point. he didn't give her a directive. al...
Cerebral pistol
  04/27/25
Co-pilots get trained hard to make their opinions known when...
tan native macaca
  04/28/25
it's like u live in a different realm
misunderstood arousing tank
  04/27/25
"She did not turn left" https://www.nytimes.com...
metal codepig
  04/27/25
You left out the part where she disobeyed the co-pilot
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
is your argument that "failed to heed" an instruct...
metal codepig
  04/27/25
"I believe" isn't an instruction. Get back to cura...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
you should be deported
sticky beta nibblets
  04/28/25
I'll happily work for China right now. Make Kash Patel do so...
tan native macaca
  04/28/25
"Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in th...
metal codepig
  04/27/25
"I believe" is not a directive. Get back to your X...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
shitcon NYT reporter is DUN HERE
Cerebral pistol
  04/27/25
(didn't read what the NYT actually said)
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
(chink losing his mind on a sunday)
Cerebral pistol
  04/27/25
your opinion matters
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
"Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
zipperhead vindicated!
Cerebral pistol
  04/27/25
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mustard curious station queen of the night
  04/28/25
she's lesbian?
metal codepig
  04/27/25
yes, i posted a link to her boot camp dyke friend
Sooty costumed bawdyhouse community account
  04/28/25
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Pink mad-dog skullcap forum
  04/27/25
Need an evan39 poast of her inner monologue
Lascivious Fortuitous Meteor Partner
  04/27/25
Why didn't ATC give clearer instructions? Seems like they wa...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
Okay I'm really flying I can't believe it I'm a totally bada...
disturbing boltzmann office
  04/27/25
180
Lascivious Fortuitous Meteor Partner
  04/27/25
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big senate death wish
  04/27/25
Jfc
Henna son of senegal
  04/27/25
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Fragrant hairless institution pozpig
  04/27/25
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Cowardly dragon toaster
  04/27/25
would love the Crumbl bit as she slams into the plane, but s...
Ruby beady-eyed corner hissy fit
  04/27/25
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cracking meetinghouse
  04/27/25
“I, like, supersede him” is masterful
Impressive fat ankles menage
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laughsome regret love of her life
  04/28/25
"my friend Melissa went to Crumbl" is masterful be...
mustard curious station queen of the night
  04/28/25
I'd have changed the story to Annie's cupcake parlor. All th...
Wonderful sadistic ticket booth
  04/28/25
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Chestnut Glittery Whorehouse
  04/28/25
*hops on BBC* hehe so random
Cowardly dragon toaster
  04/28/25
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mustard curious station queen of the night
  04/28/25
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Chestnut Glittery Whorehouse
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arrogant carmine plaza
  12/18/25
Grrrrl don’t need the patriarchy mansplaining to her a...
aromatic rehab ladyboy
  04/27/25
"slay"
Wonderful sadistic ticket booth
  04/28/25
From the actual NYT article cons are unable to read: &quo...
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
why was ATC cut off by the co-pilot? maybe co-pilot had some...
Titillating Athletic Conference
  04/28/25
"Okay, okay, don't talk to me. You're 5'9."
Cowardly dragon toaster
  04/28/25
Let’s put that in context: “Some former milit...
Stimulating angry associate kitty cat
  04/28/25
I'm gonna make this real easy to understand: 1. You can't...
tan native macaca
  04/28/25
3. If ATC wasn't talking to the helicopter, they'd better ha...
tan native macaca
  04/28/25
i guess i poasted the wrong video yesterday (didnt have heli...
Autistic karate
  04/28/25
How is the instructor so casual and non-chalant when they're...
fishy dysfunction
  04/27/25
They do
tan native macaca
  04/27/25
why is deranged gookbot NSAM glitching out so hard about thi...
mustard curious station queen of the night
  04/28/25
Do something about it
tan native macaca
  04/28/25
i am doing something about it: enjoying your unhinged mental...
mustard curious station queen of the night
  04/28/25
Why is NSAM having a schizophrenic episode itt?
Marvelous sweet tailpipe
  04/28/25
NSAM is friends with an actual blackhawk pilot instructor. E...
tan native macaca
  04/28/25
FACT CHECK: NSAM has no friends and is referring to one of h...
mustard curious station queen of the night
  04/28/25
You're in denial.
tan native macaca
  04/28/25
no, i'm pretty certain you're a mentally ill shut in gook.
mustard curious station queen of the night
  04/28/25
You're denying the truth of what I'm saying.
tan native macaca
  04/28/25
no i'm not. i have no idea what led to the accident because ...
mustard curious station queen of the night
  04/28/25
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disturbing boltzmann office
  04/28/25


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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: pearl area coldplay fan

https://x.com/sav_says_/status/1916534134022844684?s=46

Remember the DC helicopter crash in January that killed 64 people, including 12 children?

Turns out the female pilot who was flying was given multiple warnings and was directly told by her male instructor/copilot to turn the opposite direction of the passenger jet to avoid a collision.

She ignored him and flew straight into it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885389)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: startling mind-boggling school useless brakes

of all the available choices, why would you choose to fly straight into the fucking plane's path?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885398)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Cowardly dragon toaster

you will never be a woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885692)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: tan native macaca

why would an anyone choose to fly a plane into a helicopter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885696)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: Wonderful sadistic ticket booth

she was probably punishing her instructor for not fucking her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887281)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: tan native macaca

Let's see OP try to fly a Blackhawk, see how it goes lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885399)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: pearl area coldplay fan

I can listen to my instructor telling me to turn left. Are you a woman?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885451)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: tan native macaca

I don't think you can, actually. Why do you think these birds have co-pilots in the first place? I bet you don't know the answer and can't even guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885458)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Chestnut Glittery Whorehouse

Mansplaining in 2025 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885417)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: house-broken honey-headed gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885710)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:31 PM
Author: mustard curious station queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887173)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: misunderstood arousing tank

nyuug will bump this thinking it somehow vindicates the Korean crash, when in fact all it does it provide further proof that only white men should be pilots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885424)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: tan native macaca

Because it's SO HARD to find examples of men crashing Blackhawks, am I right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885427)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: misunderstood arousing tank

lol u sound azn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885455)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: tan native macaca

Yeah, I sound successful and high IQ. You're right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885468)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Fragrant hairless institution pozpig

Is he wrong though? Are there examples of men crashing BlackHawks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885803)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:35 PM
Author: sticky beta nibblets

into commercial aircraft over US soil? yea, it kind of is you weird schizo fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887183)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: metal codepig

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717144&mc=5&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885428)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: Cerebral pistol

and yet she persisted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885446)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: metal codepig

... for a very brief period

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885449)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: tan native macaca

Get back to your xbox

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885463)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 4:29 PM
Author: Buff Ratface Affirmative Action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885649)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: tan native macaca

Jesus OP is lying. The article in the tweet doesn't even say that. Cons are struggling really hard to make this a male/female thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885452)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: misunderstood arousing tank

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885457)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:00 PM
Author: tan native macaca

ATC "did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Black Hawk to avert the crash, aviation experts say."

https://archive.is/23Uv1

Why are cons saying the female pilot ignored instructions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885698)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: metal codepig

"She did not turn left"

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/business/dc-plane-crash-reagan-airport.html

Up to now attention has focused on the Black Hawk’s altitude, which was too high and placed the helicopter directly in the jet’s landing path at National Airport. But The Times found new details that show that the failures were far more complex than previously known.

The helicopter crew appeared to have made more than one mistake. Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course.

===

But even as it reached that juncture, Warrant Officer Eaves evidently felt obligated to repeat his instruction: The Black Hawk was at 300 feet, he said, and needed to descend.

Captain Lobach said she would. But two and a half minutes later, the Black Hawk still was above 200 feet — a dangerously high level.

====

The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach.

He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank.

Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet.

She did not turn left.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885460)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: tan native macaca

"Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Black Hawk to avert the crash, aviation experts say."

https://archive.is/23Uv1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885700)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Stimulating angry associate kitty cat

“former military pilots said that by issuing a proactive command to pass behind the jet, the controller was going above and beyond his obligations, especially under see-and-avoid conditions, and that an experienced Black Hawk crew should have known what to do without help.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888601)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:48 PM
Author: tan native macaca

"see and avoid conditions" that ATC authorized before ATC told the passenger jet to bank hard left. Why do you think there have been fist fights breaking out at that same ATC tower if everyone thinks it was the female pilot's fault?

Also, what happened to the claim that the pilot "disobeyed orders?" Did we bail on that theory already?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888606)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 11:04 PM
Author: Stimulating angry associate kitty cat

You’re the only one who is using those terms. You literally just made it up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48889270)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: Cerebral pistol

how many days before the tragic crash do you think the pilot met a guy from tinder and got pumped and dumped?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885453)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: tan native macaca

She didn't disobey the co-pilot. RTFA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885456)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Cerebral pistol

i think i see your point. he didn't give her a directive. although, just to play devils advocate here, he did say "i think you should do X" and if she had done X, they, as well as 65 people on the airplane (including children) would still be alive.

cons btfo here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885462)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: tan native macaca

Co-pilots get trained hard to make their opinions known when it matters. Being a co-pilot means you know when to tell the pilot what the fuck to do, and make your instructions clear. You don't half-ass it and call it an "order."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888617)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: misunderstood arousing tank

it's like u live in a different realm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885464)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: metal codepig

"She did not turn left"

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/business/dc-plane-crash-reagan-airport.html

Up to now attention has focused on the Black Hawk’s altitude, which was too high and placed the helicopter directly in the jet’s landing path at National Airport. But The Times found new details that show that the failures were far more complex than previously known.

The helicopter crew appeared to have made more than one mistake. Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course.

===

But even as it reached that juncture, Warrant Officer Eaves evidently felt obligated to repeat his instruction: The Black Hawk was at 300 feet, he said, and needed to descend.

Captain Lobach said she would. But two and a half minutes later, the Black Hawk still was above 200 feet — a dangerously high level.

====

The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach.

He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank.

Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet.

She did not turn left.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885467)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: tan native macaca

You left out the part where she disobeyed the co-pilot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885471)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: metal codepig

is your argument that "failed to heed" an instruction =/= "disobeyed"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885474)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: tan native macaca

"I believe" isn't an instruction. Get back to curating AAA games, retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885476)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: sticky beta nibblets

you should be deported

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887188)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: tan native macaca

I'll happily work for China right now. Make Kash Patel do something about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888626)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: metal codepig

"Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885472)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: tan native macaca

"I believe" is not a directive. Get back to your Xbox, whitey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885473)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: Cerebral pistol

shitcon NYT reporter is DUN HERE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885487)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: tan native macaca

(didn't read what the NYT actually said)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885490)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: Cerebral pistol

(chink losing his mind on a sunday)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885510)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:24 PM
Author: tan native macaca

your opinion matters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885513)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:02 PM
Author: tan native macaca

"Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Black Hawk to avert the crash, aviation experts say."

https://archive.is/23Uv1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885701)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Cerebral pistol

zipperhead vindicated!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885737)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: mustard curious station queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888649)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: metal codepig

she's lesbian?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885465)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:34 PM
Author: Sooty costumed bawdyhouse community account

yes, i posted a link to her boot camp dyke friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888722)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: Pink mad-dog skullcap forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885475)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: Lascivious Fortuitous Meteor Partner

Need an evan39 poast of her inner monologue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885477)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:16 PM
Author: tan native macaca

Why didn't ATC give clearer instructions? Seems like they waffled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885492)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: disturbing boltzmann office

Okay I'm really flying I can't believe it I'm a totally badass girl pilot this is kind of scary not like the simulator and it's so dark what are those lights why are there so many lights okay it's just DC be calm you've got this why does this trainer keep giving me orders doesn't he know I'm an officer and that I was first place in the tough mudder and that I like got to be on the honor guard didn't he see all my ribbons and how they all have to salute when I walk by he's enlisted and like doesn't understand that so whatever okay focus there's traffic in the area scan the horizon steady keep level okay what's that light down below okay it's nothing but we're on vis sep and they just said to turn right was it right or left I'll confirm why doesn't my radio work I think that button is messed up I'll try again oops wrong channel can't we like use these night vision thingies to make it easier but there's traffic so we need to be extra careful my friend Melissa went to Crumbl last night and they had these amazing sugar cookies that had like caramel and chocolate on them but they were so good I ate two okay it was actually five or six but they were yummy what is the tower asking us why did they say turn right I thought it was left why does this guy keep giving me orders doesn't he know that I like supersede him he should totally respect my rank I didn't put in three years of ROTC just to get yelled at by an enlisted okay focus tower says vis sep approved scanning the horizon the airport is up ahead traffic is clear what turn left I thought we were climbing got it executing right turn what is that bright light is that traffic wow that plane is really close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885711)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: Lascivious Fortuitous Meteor Partner

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885748)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: big senate death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885749)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: Henna son of senegal

Jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885770)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: Fragrant hairless institution pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885808)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: Cowardly dragon toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885810)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 7:02 PM
Author: Ruby beady-eyed corner hissy fit

would love the Crumbl bit as she slams into the plane, but still a 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885915)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 7:56 PM
Author: cracking meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48886022)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Impressive fat ankles menage

“I, like, supersede him” is masterful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48886075)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: laughsome regret love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887315)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: mustard curious station queen of the night

"my friend Melissa went to Crumbl" is masterful because this is one of the subtle ways women dodge accountability for anything. women would never eat cookies on their own they just constantly find themselves in cookie eating situations teehee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887333)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: Wonderful sadistic ticket booth

I'd have changed the story to Annie's cupcake parlor. All those retarded bitches love the cute little red velvets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887339)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: Chestnut Glittery Whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887342)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: Cowardly dragon toaster

*hops on BBC*

hehe so random

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888473)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 10:19 PM
Author: Ruby beady-eyed corner hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48889045)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: mustard curious station queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887180)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: Chestnut Glittery Whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887279)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: twisted crotch new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887295)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: Trip site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887304)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:08 PM
Author: submissive cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888492)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:26 PM
Author: Comical School Cafeteria Shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888539)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: arrogant carmine plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888643)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 10:22 PM
Author: sapphire library immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48889056)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: arrogant carmine plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48935999)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 8:39 AM
Author: arrogant carmine plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#49518802)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: aromatic rehab ladyboy

Grrrrl don’t need the patriarchy mansplaining to her about altitude and avoiding traffic, slay kwan!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885503)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: Wonderful sadistic ticket booth

"slay"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887297)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: tan native macaca

From the actual NYT article cons are unable to read:

"The controller also could have done more.

Though he had delegated the prime responsibility for evading other air traffic to the Black Hawk crew under visual separation, he continued to monitor the helicopter, as his job required. Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Black Hawk to avert the crash, aviation experts say."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885690)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: Titillating Athletic Conference

why was ATC cut off by the co-pilot? maybe co-pilot had something important to say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888524)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Cowardly dragon toaster

"Okay, okay, don't talk to me. You're 5'9."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888529)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: Stimulating angry associate kitty cat

Let’s put that in context:

“Some former military pilots said that by issuing a proactive command to pass behind the jet, the controller was going above and beyond his obligations, especially under see-and-avoid conditions, and that an experienced Black Hawk crew should have known what to do without help.

“Still, some regulators and controllers said that the controller in this case could have done more.

“He could have told the Black Hawk crew where Flight 5342 was positioned and which way it was bound. (The F.A.A. manual instructions direct controllers to use the hours of a clock in describing locations.) He could have provided the jet’s distance from the helicopter in nautical miles or feet.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888609)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: tan native macaca

I'm gonna make this real easy to understand:

1. You can't get TOO MUCH assistance from air traffic control. If they're not talking to you, it's because they have to yell at some korean pilot who can't understand English. They don't have the staff on hand to talk to you all the time. They figure you're an Army helicopter pilot, you can handle things on your own, and they leave you in the lurch.

2. Just because you're used to being treated that way by ATC doesn't make the accident your fault.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888636)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: tan native macaca

3. If ATC wasn't talking to the helicopter, they'd better have a good excuse. "We had to yell at a Korean pilot" would be acceptable. If they just went out to get starbucks, that's what caused the collision. The end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888642)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Autistic karate

i guess i poasted the wrong video yesterday (didnt have helicopter audio)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

helicopter confirms plane in sight for landing on rw 33 at 35 seconds (they may have been looking at another plane)

ATC then asks them to confirm again they have plane in sight and to pass behind them at 1:11. Collision is like 15 seconds later.

i'm no aviation expert but i'm not sure what else atc is supposed to do here, especially since they apparently didn't have real time altitude data from the helicopter (which was way above 200 feet)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888806)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:20 PM
Author: fishy dysfunction

How is the instructor so casual and non-chalant when they're a few seconds from crashing?

Makes me think they routinely come this close to crashing daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885736)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: tan native macaca

They do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48885741)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:35 PM
Author: mustard curious station queen of the night

why is deranged gookbot NSAM glitching out so hard about this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887184)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: tan native macaca

Do something about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887270)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: mustard curious station queen of the night

i am doing something about it: enjoying your unhinged mental illness. i'm just perplexed on why this is so triggering for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887301)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: Marvelous sweet tailpipe

Why is NSAM having a schizophrenic episode itt?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48887335)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:47 PM
Author: tan native macaca

NSAM is friends with an actual blackhawk pilot instructor. Everything I say is solid gold and you know it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888604)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:54 PM
Author: mustard curious station queen of the night

FACT CHECK: NSAM has no friends and is referring to one of his separate personalities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888622)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:07 PM
Author: tan native macaca

You're in denial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888651)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:09 PM
Author: mustard curious station queen of the night

no, i'm pretty certain you're a mentally ill shut in gook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888658)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: tan native macaca

You're denying the truth of what I'm saying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888678)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: mustard curious station queen of the night

no i'm not. i have no idea what led to the accident because i'm not an expert in aviation. and neither are you, which is why it's crazy you pretend to be an expert on this, and everything else. however, based on your schizobabble on topics i am an expert in, i expect that's what you're doing here too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888717)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: disturbing boltzmann office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2/en-en/#48888139)