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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
splenetic ladyboy market
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Cerebral address mood
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Fishy Potus Hairy Legs
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Cerebral address mood
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: splenetic ladyboy market

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: dun base really tough guy

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: dun base really tough guy

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: dun base really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: dun base really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: dun base really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: dun base really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: dun base really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: dun base really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: dun base really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: dun base really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: dun base really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Cerebral address mood

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Fishy Potus Hairy Legs

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Cerebral address mood

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Fishy Potus Hairy Legs

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Cerebral address mood

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Exciting ticket booth

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: scarlet naked resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Yapping zombie-like nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: thriller underhanded immigrant hospital

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: boyish psychic toilet seat

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Spruce flatulent corner regret

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Exciting ticket booth

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Odious out-of-control step-uncle's house

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle sexy fat ankles

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Shimmering harsh national security agency

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105022)