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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Lascivious rehab dopamine
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
greedy self-centered plaza incel
  12/16/25
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Lascivious rehab dopamine
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Saffron Massive Tanning Salon
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
greedy self-centered plaza incel
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Saffron Massive Tanning Salon
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
greedy self-centered plaza incel
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Saffron Massive Tanning Salon
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Lascivious rehab dopamine
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
greedy self-centered plaza incel
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Saffron Massive Tanning Salon
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
greedy self-centered plaza incel
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Saffron Massive Tanning Salon
  12/17/25
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Lascivious rehab dopamine
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greedy self-centered plaza incel
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
wild gaming laptop
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
greedy self-centered plaza incel
  12/16/25
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wild gaming laptop
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
boyish blathering halford
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
greedy self-centered plaza incel
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
cocky electric personal credit line
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
greedy self-centered plaza incel
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Big factory reset button
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greedy self-centered plaza incel
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Lascivious rehab dopamine
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Vigorous sooty box office
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
misanthropic insanely creepy queen of the night
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greedy self-centered plaza incel
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Vigorous sooty box office
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Lascivious rehab dopamine
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Lascivious rehab dopamine
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Saffron Massive Tanning Salon
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
onyx beady-eyed becky toilet seat
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Lascivious rehab dopamine



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Lascivious rehab dopamine

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Saffron Massive Tanning Salon

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Saffron Massive Tanning Salon

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Saffron Massive Tanning Salon

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Lascivious rehab dopamine

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Saffron Massive Tanning Salon

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Saffron Massive Tanning Salon

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Lascivious rehab dopamine



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: wild gaming laptop

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: wild gaming laptop



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: boyish blathering halford

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: cocky electric personal credit line

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Big factory reset button

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Lascivious rehab dopamine



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Vigorous sooty box office

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: misanthropic insanely creepy queen of the night

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: greedy self-centered plaza incel



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Vigorous sooty box office



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Lascivious rehab dopamine



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Lascivious rehab dopamine



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Saffron Massive Tanning Salon

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: onyx beady-eyed becky toilet seat

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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