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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
umber shaky temple goal in life
  12/16/25
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Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
big mentally impaired orchestra pit
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
umber shaky temple goal in life
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
big mentally impaired orchestra pit
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
umber shaky temple goal in life
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
big mentally impaired orchestra pit
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
umber shaky temple goal in life
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
big mentally impaired orchestra pit
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
umber shaky temple goal in life
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
big mentally impaired orchestra pit
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Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy
  12/17/25
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umber shaky temple goal in life
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Bronze sexy station mood
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
umber shaky temple goal in life
  12/16/25
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Bronze sexy station mood
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Pearly pistol set
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
umber shaky temple goal in life
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
hideous azn
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
umber shaky temple goal in life
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Free-loading opaque heaven
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umber shaky temple goal in life
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Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Exhilarant business firm
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
useless deep step-uncle's house crotch
  12/17/25
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umber shaky temple goal in life
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Exhilarant business firm
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Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy
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Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
big mentally impaired orchestra pit
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
spectacular native goyim
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: big mentally impaired orchestra pit

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: big mentally impaired orchestra pit

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: big mentally impaired orchestra pit

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: big mentally impaired orchestra pit

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: big mentally impaired orchestra pit

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Bronze sexy station mood

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Bronze sexy station mood



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Pearly pistol set

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: hideous azn

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Free-loading opaque heaven

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Exhilarant business firm

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: useless deep step-uncle's house crotch

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: umber shaky temple goal in life



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Exhilarant business firm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Shivering Fiercely-loyal Parlour Really Tough Guy



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: big mentally impaired orchestra pit

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: spectacular native goyim

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515738)