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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Aquamarine Thriller Chad
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
concupiscible corn cake macaca
  12/16/25
18000
Aquamarine Thriller Chad
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
harsh garrison
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
concupiscible corn cake macaca
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
harsh garrison
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
concupiscible corn cake macaca
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
harsh garrison
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Aquamarine Thriller Chad
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
concupiscible corn cake macaca
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
harsh garrison
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
concupiscible corn cake macaca
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
harsh garrison
  12/17/25
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Aquamarine Thriller Chad
  12/17/25
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concupiscible corn cake macaca
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
exciting psychic milk
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
concupiscible corn cake macaca
  12/16/25
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exciting psychic milk
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
electric startling deer antler
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
concupiscible corn cake macaca
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Pale Stimulating Laser Beams Business Firm
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
concupiscible corn cake macaca
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
comical windowlicker
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concupiscible corn cake macaca
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Aquamarine Thriller Chad
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Offensive insecure forum
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
odious pozpig theatre
  12/17/25
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concupiscible corn cake macaca
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Offensive insecure forum
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Aquamarine Thriller Chad
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Aquamarine Thriller Chad
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
harsh garrison
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Rusted place of business
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Aquamarine Thriller Chad



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Aquamarine Thriller Chad

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: harsh garrison

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: harsh garrison

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: harsh garrison

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Aquamarine Thriller Chad

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: harsh garrison

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: harsh garrison

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Aquamarine Thriller Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: exciting psychic milk

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: exciting psychic milk



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: electric startling deer antler

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Pale Stimulating Laser Beams Business Firm

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: comical windowlicker

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Aquamarine Thriller Chad



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Offensive insecure forum

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: odious pozpig theatre

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: concupiscible corn cake macaca



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Offensive insecure forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Aquamarine Thriller Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Aquamarine Thriller Chad



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: harsh garrison

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Rusted place of business

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515738)