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If Trump wins and doesn't do mass-deportations it was all for nothing

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MASE
  10/04/24
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bcs
  10/04/24
u mean mass-executions
Bill (((Goldberg)))
  10/04/24
So the first term was a failure?
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  10/04/24
if you want to know what trump will do, all you need to ask ...
Reverend Right
  10/04/24
I think there'll be quite a few, many more than we've been s...
topography
  10/04/24
the idea of ice vans roaming the streets and pulling law abi...
i appreciate the generosity of your time
  10/04/24
Just enforce laws prohibiting people from employing illegals...
Drunkard
  10/04/24
a more realistic solution than mass deportation.
i appreciate the generosity of your time
  10/04/24
"law abiding illegals" get the fuck out of here
Bill (((Goldberg)))
  10/04/24
as i said, i'd like it if this was an option. and of course ...
i appreciate the generosity of your time
  10/04/24
Vance went on the record very clearly and I trust what he sa...
718-662-5970
  10/04/24
it's going to cost a fortune to track these people down and ...
UhOh
  10/04/24
The violent felons? I have no numbers at hand, but I bet 33%...
718-662-5970
  10/04/24
what do you mean "won't take them back" lol? we ca...
i appreciate the generosity of your time
  10/04/24
cr. there is no amount of red tape in getting a job or a ...
718-662-5970
  10/04/24
yeah. punishing AMERICACNS who take advantage of illegal lab...
i appreciate the generosity of your time
  10/04/24
the media would turn into a 24/7 elian gonzales spectable
UhOh
  10/04/24
think of how much traction "kids in cages" got eve...
i appreciate the generosity of your time
  10/04/24
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Reverend Right
  10/04/24
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Reverend Right
  10/04/24
the fact that we don't send illegals CONVICTED of a felony a...
i appreciate the generosity of your time
  10/04/24
the solution to this problem is and always has been to make ...
UhOh
  10/04/24
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Drunkard
  10/04/24
are large employers even hiring these people? seems like the...
Reverend Right
  10/04/24
hotels restaurants and agriculture are completely dependent ...
UhOh
  10/04/24
Most of the subcontractors are their fellow immigrants or ch...
Sickly argumentative UES Jew in puffy jacket
  10/04/24
they live in clusters, so only one needs to get paid. That d...
718-662-5970
  10/04/24
absolutely insane that we allowed this to happen. can't see ...
Reverend Right
  10/04/24
tbf it is deplorable and poverty conditions even though it's...
i appreciate the generosity of your time
  10/04/24
Lmao cons never learn
:;:;;;:;:;;;:;:;:;:;
  10/04/24
it is 2016
A lawyer (or lower)
  10/04/24


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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:38 PM
Author: MASE



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163128)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:39 PM
Author: bcs (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163131)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: Bill (((Goldberg)))

u mean mass-executions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163149)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:44 PM
Author: . . ... .. . .. . . . .. . . .. .... . . . ..

So the first term was a failure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163154)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:44 PM
Author: Reverend Right

if you want to know what trump will do, all you need to ask is this:

is it good for jews?

if it is good for jews, trump will do it. if it is not, he will not.

is deporting illegal immigrants good for jews, mase?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163158)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:44 PM
Author: topography

I think there'll be quite a few, many more than we've been seeing, but it's not going to be the train car round-em-up rodeo that many are expecting

The sad truth is that the economic disturbance created by true mass deportations would likely destabilize the economy and result in even more economic pain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163160)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:46 PM
Author: i appreciate the generosity of your time (gunneratttt)

the idea of ice vans roaming the streets and pulling law abiding illegals out of their home is unthinkable. certainly under a trump admin after we saw how effective he is. i'd like this to happen, but if this is how you're going to judge whether trump is a failure you are 100% certain to be disappointed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163167)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:48 PM
Author: Drunkard

Just enforce laws prohibiting people from employing illegals, giving them ID, and seize their bank accounts. Add mandatory reporting for all healthcare, schools, police etc. make it untenable to live in the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163179)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:51 PM
Author: i appreciate the generosity of your time (gunneratttt)

a more realistic solution than mass deportation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163196)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:49 PM
Author: Bill (((Goldberg)))

"law abiding illegals"

get the fuck out of here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163181)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:54 PM
Author: i appreciate the generosity of your time (gunneratttt)

as i said, i'd like it if this was an option. and of course by virtue of being an illegal immigrant they are already breaking the law.

but if you think it's even a possibility ICE is gonna start loading up spic families that have been in a community for decades and not committed any crimes you are out of your mind. and to make this the binary factor of whether trump succeeds or fails means he will 100% fail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163203)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:49 PM
Author: 718-662-5970

Vance went on the record very clearly and I trust what he said was best case scenario:

1. Expedited process for deportation of those with felony convictions (maybe even the smaller group of violent felony convictions). This probably just involves ordering immigration courts to work "double time" in signing these orders and ordering ICE to 1) retrieve these people from criminal jails and/or 2) execute warrants on those at liberty whose whereabout are known. Those on the loose will remain so, until or unless they are arrested for some new crime. NONE of this is a new law or new protocol. Its just promising to enforce what the law already is.

2. Initiate some employer-verification program to make employment hard and incentivize illegals to self-deport. This obviously requires a congressional bill signed into law, and like the wall Dems in Congress have no reason to give Trump a win. GOP will need the requisite numbers to pass it despite Dems voting no, and the requisite will to support it. Both of those failed for the border wall.

After that, Vance shut up.

There does not seem to be any plan to detain and deport non-felons.

Trump, ofc, promises different but always without any details of a plan. I think the above is best case scenario.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163184)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:51 PM
Author: UhOh

it's going to cost a fortune to track these people down and get them out of here, assuming they can even be found. it would be a decades long game of whack-a-mole. and then what about all the countries that won't take them back?

the only viable solution is to make it impossible for them to survive here so they go back on their own, and the only way to do that is to penalize the living shit out of the americans who pay them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163195)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:55 PM
Author: 718-662-5970

The violent felons? I have no numbers at hand, but I bet 33%+ of them are sitting in jails and prisons. They need to be transferred to immigration detention centers, out of criminal jails. ICE currently has the power to do this, but their centers are often full, their officers are often lazy, and criminal judges and local corrections dont like to let people go...

Past that 33%, you will have some small group, say ~5%, where ICE knows exactly where they live. Get a warrant, arrest, process and deport. Not too expensive, but will need to get ICE agents into vans and out on the street.

Those lost in the wind? Nothing will happen.

But for those we send back, there is no country that can say "we wont take them back" if they are citizens of that country.

As for some dreamed-of mass deportation of non-felons... yeah that would be an operation akin to landing on the moon, in terms of money and gridlock. And thats why even Vance isnt mentioning it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163207)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:59 PM
Author: i appreciate the generosity of your time (gunneratttt)

what do you mean "won't take them back" lol? we can park a tanker full of illegals on guatamala shores and shovel them out.

there is no amount of difficulty we could do to make them live here that will convince them to go back. although it could make them go elsewhere and disincentivize them from coming here in the first place. but you're bonkers if you think we'd do shit like cutting them off from utilities and healthcare and people are just OK with them starving in the streets. plus there's little the feds can do to prevent the sanctuary states from just providing services.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163215)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:03 PM
Author: 718-662-5970

cr.

there is no amount of red tape in getting a job or a paycheck that would ever make some Haitian in Ohio say, "you know what? better I take my 6 kids back to Port au Prince, back to the metal shed built over the muddy creek filled with plastic two litres, where we cook rat meat over the fire of burning rubber tires, and fend off one-legged beggers with AIDS all day".

lol.

THEY WILL NEVER SELF-DEPORT EVER*

*unless the culture in the US changes so radically that roving bands of young american men hunt them and beat them and rape them and lynch them. Then -- MAYBE -- they decide Haiti is the best way to stay alive.

iow, short of public support for race war, these demographics will only trend upwards infinitely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163233)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:12 PM
Author: i appreciate the generosity of your time (gunneratttt)

yeah. punishing AMERICACNS who take advantage of illegal labor is the main thing. they're the real bad guys anyway. knowingly hiring an illegal should be a felony and there should be a lot of protections in place to make sure they don't "accidentally" do it. i don't really even blame the immigrants, they're just acting rationally and escaping desperate situations. if you leave the door open to a garage full of food and allow your family members to invite them in to eat, you can hardly blame a starving person for coming in.

and as far as the radical changes yeah any form of government or change is *conceivable*. but if you think there is a real possibility of that happening in the short term you're on crack. yet lots of people will INSIST we take a course of action that 90% of americans will reject. you might as well talk about repealing the 19th, which is even more effective and has a greater chance of happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163263)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:14 PM
Author: UhOh

the media would turn into a 24/7 elian gonzales spectable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163276)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:20 PM
Author: i appreciate the generosity of your time (gunneratttt)

think of how much traction "kids in cages" got even though that policy was extremely reasonable if you looked into for 15 seconds.

now imagine if illegals were starving to death and being denied food and it was literally government policy to do so. gtfo lmao.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163318)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:19 PM
Author: Reverend Right



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163310)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:19 PM
Author: Reverend Right



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163309)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:55 PM
Author: i appreciate the generosity of your time (gunneratttt)

the fact that we don't send illegals CONVICTED of a felony across the border via catapult is fucking bonkers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163206)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:48 PM
Author: UhOh

the solution to this problem is and always has been to make it a felony to employ these people, but neither side is going to piss off their masters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163177)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:49 PM
Author: Drunkard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163180)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 1:53 PM
Author: Reverend Right

are large employers even hiring these people? seems like they're doing construction jobs under several layers of subcontractors who pay them cash, or food service.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163201)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: UhOh

hotels restaurants and agriculture are completely dependent on them. big construction is full of them via subcontractors so they can pretend not to know. chamber of commerce business are all using them if for nothing more than maintenance and lawn care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163246)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:21 PM
Author: Sickly argumentative UES Jew in puffy jacket

Most of the subcontractors are their fellow immigrants or children of immigrants. Often legal. Legal immigration spurs additional illegal immigration, a point you will NOT hear discussed in public ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163319)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:11 PM
Author: 718-662-5970

they live in clusters, so only one needs to get paid. That dude getting his illegal cash + welfare for everyone = 8 people living in a small home at "poverty level", which is >>>>>> better than life in Guatemala or Haiti or Somalia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163262)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:17 PM
Author: Reverend Right

absolutely insane that we allowed this to happen. can't see deportations having any sort of meaningful effect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163299)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:18 PM
Author: i appreciate the generosity of your time (gunneratttt)

tbf it is deplorable and poverty conditions even though it's still better than where they came from.

it pisses me off endlessly that pro-immigration say it's for humanitarian reasons. no, you're exploiting desperate people and allowing them to live in 3rd world conditions at home so you can harvest strawberries cheaper. it's worse than slavery. these people would willingly sell themselves into slavery and live materially. the fact the businesses don't explicitly "own" them and need to provide for their welfare means they can exploit them even more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163304)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:03 PM
Author: :;:;;;:;:;;;:;:;:;:;

Lmao cons never learn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163232)



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Date: October 4th, 2024 2:23 PM
Author: A lawyer (or lower)

it is 2016

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5606394&forum_id=2/en-en/#48163327)