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5-10 years... "biglawyers" = lamplighters out of work

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Frisky fantasy-prone native
  07/18/25
God willing
Mind-boggling haunted graveyard people who are hurt
  07/18/25
Inshallah
Frisky fantasy-prone native
  07/18/25
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Arousing public bath prole
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Frisky fantasy-prone native
  07/18/25
nickel endimed
Irradiated kitchen
  07/18/25
What happens next though? Clearly we still have lawyers ...
Vibrant Shimmering Toaster Locus
  07/18/25
Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling m...
Heady piazza keepsake machete
  07/18/25
What is the bulk of your business
Wonderful field
  07/18/25
The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions...
Heady piazza keepsake machete
  07/18/25
lol 180
amethyst self-centered giraffe
  07/18/25
180
Wonderful field
  07/18/25
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Cobalt marketing idea
  07/19/25
prole squabbles, llp
Grizzly fragrant cruise ship
  07/18/25
UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologi...
Narrow-minded fanboi house
  07/18/25
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Frisky fantasy-prone native
  07/18/25
how about we just have billionaires who "lord" ove...
umber center striped hyena
  07/18/25
Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money ...
bonkers mexican casino
  07/18/25
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Frisky fantasy-prone native
  07/18/25
I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impr...
Stimulating garnet bawdyhouse regret
  07/18/25
I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capa...
Navy Floppy Skinny Woman
  07/18/25
It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there&rsqu...
disrespectful duck-like brethren
  07/18/25
Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro ...
Navy Floppy Skinny Woman
  07/18/25
It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucina...
disrespectful duck-like brethren
  07/18/25
Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex lo...
disrespectful duck-like brethren
  07/18/25
Coping fag hello
disrespectful duck-like brethren
  07/18/25
You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to ...
Navy Floppy Skinny Woman
  07/18/25
Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to...
Vermilion soggy shrine
  07/18/25
Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of s...
disrespectful duck-like brethren
  07/19/25
Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argu...
cerebral tanning salon circlehead
  07/19/25
Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law produ...
disrespectful duck-like brethren
  07/19/25
OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants
Sooty comical doctorate university
  07/18/25
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dashing church building rigpig
  07/19/25
I wish.
Startled Crawly Fat Ankles
  07/18/25
Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. ...
Well-lubricated blood rage incel
  07/18/25


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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:16 AM
Author: Frisky fantasy-prone native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111109)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:23 AM
Author: Mind-boggling haunted graveyard people who are hurt

God willing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111113)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Frisky fantasy-prone native

Inshallah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111128)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Arousing public bath prole



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: Frisky fantasy-prone native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49113496)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Irradiated kitchen

nickel endimed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111131)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 6:33 AM
Author: Vibrant Shimmering Toaster Locus

What happens next though?

Clearly we still have lawyers and law firms, but perhaps the firm headcount drops to 10% the current headcount, and AI/software picks up the slack.

In that world, is the firm owned by just a handful of partners? Do law firms start to act like lean software companies? When does a U.S. firm IPO?

The counterpoint btw is that we just do a lot more work that was prohibitively expensive before. For example, I probably see 25+ cease and desist letters for every lawsuit, because letters cost $5-10k and lawsuits cost $100k to initiate and $5M+ to litigate through summary judgment. If cost of litigation drops [80%] people may file many more lawsuits. There could be an analogous dynamic on the corporate/business side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111194)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Heady piazza keepsake machete

Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling me virtually every day because their "friend" cheated them out of $300 or something. I tell them it doesn't make financial sense to pursue that and they start crying. There's a big untapped market out there for adjudicating squabbles among proles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111342)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Wonderful field

What is the bulk of your business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111384)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Heady piazza keepsake machete

The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions, construction disputes, zoning issues. Tons of lawsuits over exactly who owns some piece of land, often with a rotting mobile home sitting on it. Average client expenditure is about $3000, but that varies wildly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111405)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: amethyst self-centered giraffe

lol 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111430)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Wonderful field

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111461)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: Cobalt marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49113902)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Grizzly fragrant cruise ship

prole squabbles, llp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111464)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: Narrow-minded fanboi house

UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologies)for the technologists or corporations replacing people with chatbots needs to be scrutinized and tracked ASAP to start determining the amount owed to the american citizenry

it's critical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111414)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Frisky fantasy-prone native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49113498)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: umber center striped hyena

how about we just have billionaires who "lord" over us and poors who you could say serve or maybe "serf" them and then anyone who doesn't go along with this gets to die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49113524)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: bonkers mexican casino

Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money as soon as you fucking can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111417)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Frisky fantasy-prone native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49113499)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Stimulating garnet bawdyhouse regret

I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impressed. It helps, it certainly makes us more productive, but major reductions in headcount? Also, everyone keeps saying wait another year. But we’re a couple of years in and the capabilities (at least as applied to law) seem about the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111420)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: Navy Floppy Skinny Woman

I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capabilities have skyrocketed over the past two years and there's no reason that wouldn't apply to law if it applies subjects that are at least as complex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111435)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: disrespectful duck-like brethren

It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there’s no objectively correct answer unlike coding or whatever. Here’s a better explanation why law is harder to master for AI than coding.

Coding is governed by strict syntax and deterministic rules. A given input in a programming language will always produce the same output if the code is correct.

• Legal analysis involves ambiguous language, conflicting authorities, policy tradeoffs, and context-sensitive reasoning—skills that require human judgment and real-world understanding.

AI has been trained on massive open-source code repositories like GitHub, with clear labels, documentation, and results. This data is abundant, consistent, and high-quality.

• Legal data is more fragmented:

• Case law is often behind paywalls.

• Court decisions may be long, inconsistent, or involve complex procedural postures.

• Outcomes are not always “correct” or universally agreed upon.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111495)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: Navy Floppy Skinny Woman

Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro can absolutely handle textual nuance and complex questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: disrespectful duck-like brethren

It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucinations or misstatements of the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111526)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: disrespectful duck-like brethren

Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex logic, unlike coding, there’s no single correct answer to the important questions that get litigated, the legal background is often contradictory and nuanced so you can’t just train it easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111634)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: disrespectful duck-like brethren

Coping fag hello

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111710)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Navy Floppy Skinny Woman

You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to generate responses when there isn't an objectively correct answer, there isn't much else to say. If anything law being subjective bullshit will make it easier to automate. When I deal with ai skeptics these days I mostly just wait for reality to prove them wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111715)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Vermilion soggy shrine

Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to replace paralegals and juniors to have an enormous impact, which it pretty much already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49112807)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: disrespectful duck-like brethren

Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of saying “I’m just wrong” with no explanation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49113912)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: cerebral tanning salon circlehead

Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argument to the answer it just gave you

(delete the em dash next time you retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49113914)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: disrespectful duck-like brethren

Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law products are pretty shit for any complex practice.

No doubt that people who rely on making money through teams of 20 paralegals filling out forms and doing rote tasks will change a lot but automating such repetitive thoughtless tasks is entirely different than writing a compelling brief based on nuanced and complex facts in an uncertain area of law.

It most likely will be similar to how word processing eliminated a lot of support positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49114500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Sooty comical doctorate university

OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111438)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 1:33 AM
Author: dashing church building rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49113713)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Startled Crawly Fat Ankles

I wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111468)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: Well-lubricated blood rage incel

Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. Add on top that people using it are dumber. All AI is going to do is maybe help the few smart people left do stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2/en-en/#49111741)