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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
scarlet legal warrant nibblets
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
very tactful roommate school cafeteria
  03/19/18
it's despicable
scarlet legal warrant nibblets
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
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  03/19/18
lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
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  08/04/25
Trendash for life. What the fuck?
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180 doctorate useless brakes
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  03/19/18
This literally does not exist in the English language. I hav...
scarlet legal warrant nibblets
  03/19/18
(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers ...
180 doctorate useless brakes
  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
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  03/19/18
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Is this flame
cerebral unhinged gas station
  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
Trip Menage Filthpig
  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
Sinister cowardly ape
  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
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  03/19/18
cr, huge patent prole tell
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Coiffed Chapel Trump Supporter
  03/19/18
i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
Deranged gunner
  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
scarlet legal warrant nibblets
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
Vigorous reading party
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
scarlet legal warrant nibblets
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
Vigorous reading party
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
Swashbuckling Mint Locale Background Story
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
180 doctorate useless brakes
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
Electric Business Firm
  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
scarlet legal warrant nibblets
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
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  03/19/18
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180 doctorate useless brakes
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
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  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
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  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
very tactful roommate school cafeteria
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
scarlet legal warrant nibblets
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
very tactful roommate school cafeteria
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
Swashbuckling Mint Locale Background Story
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
Coiffed Chapel Trump Supporter
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
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  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
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  03/19/18
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Swashbuckling Mint Locale Background Story
  03/19/18
Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this ...
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  03/19/18
Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but t...
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nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck abou...
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transhyphenist non bigot here
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  03/20/18
I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
Mind-boggling Umber Corner
  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
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  05/12/18
The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the pr...
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  05/12/18
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: very tactful roommate school cafeteria

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Cordovan Contagious Field Son Of Senegal

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: 180 doctorate useless brakes

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Salmon half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645246)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: drunken plum windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35658763)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: 180 doctorate useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050284)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#49155425)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Yellow Sticky Church Factory Reset Button

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: 180 doctorate useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641327)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Confused National Security Agency Hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641346)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: 180 doctorate useless brakes

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Coiffed Chapel Trump Supporter

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641427)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: zombie-like spectacular brethren cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645264)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: violent den private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641354)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: vermilion internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641366)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: zombie-like spectacular brethren cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641386)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Titillating fear-inspiring dilemma black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641406)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: cerebral unhinged gas station

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Trip Menage Filthpig

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Sinister cowardly ape

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Hyperactive useless office incel

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Coiffed Chapel Trump Supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641869)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Deranged gunner

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Vigorous reading party

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Vigorous reading party

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Mint Locale Background Story

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: 180 doctorate useless brakes

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Electric Business Firm

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: cerebral unhinged gas station

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: 180 doctorate useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: very tactful roommate school cafeteria

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Curious Stag Film Shitlib

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: very tactful roommate school cafeteria

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: scarlet legal warrant nibblets

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: very tactful roommate school cafeteria

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Mint Locale Background Story

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Coiffed Chapel Trump Supporter

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Mint Locale Background Story

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Coiffed Chapel Trump Supporter

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Mint Locale Background Story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641859)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: Electric Business Firm

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Curious Stag Film Shitlib

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Mint Locale Background Story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641861)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Mint Locale Background Story

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: irradiated masturbator weed whacker

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641759)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Razzmatazz School Persian

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: erotic prole

alt 0151

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645233)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Gaped french codepig

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Umber Corner

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: beady-eyed buck-toothed indian lodge headpube

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Vigorous reading party

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: beta internet-worthy becky turdskin

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050530)