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Question about European feudalism.
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Twinkling Liquid Oxygen Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49117359) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49143857) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49464738) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49495268) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: irradiated free-loading dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49567730) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: flushed heady milk Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: adventurous telephone lay Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: flushed heady milk (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: adventurous telephone lay They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: flushed heady milk read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Disrespectful ape Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Bateful parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Bull Headed Set Trump Supporter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Onyx property what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Laughsome angry corner cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Vivacious internal respiration I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Disrespectful ape teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Green Violent Hell Mediation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Geriatric Pit Fortuitous Meteor i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: fragrant honey-headed range Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: trip love of her life house really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Talented mad-dog skullcap It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: exhilarant home idea he suggested it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Talented mad-dog skullcap Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: trip love of her life house actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |