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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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zippy impressive university depressive
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
obsidian insecure knife
  12/16/25
18000
zippy impressive university depressive
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
obsidian insecure knife
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
obsidian insecure knife
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
zippy impressive university depressive
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
obsidian insecure knife
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
obsidian insecure knife
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman
  12/17/25
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zippy impressive university depressive
  12/17/25
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obsidian insecure knife
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Flatulent Slate Scourge Upon The Earth French Chef
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
obsidian insecure knife
  12/16/25
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Flatulent Slate Scourge Upon The Earth French Chef
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
godawful cruise ship associate
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
obsidian insecure knife
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
overrated striped hyena becky
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
obsidian insecure knife
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
cocky silver menage background story
  12/16/25
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obsidian insecure knife
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zippy impressive university depressive
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
frisky garnet partner
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Ivory Degenerate
  12/17/25
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obsidian insecure knife
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frisky garnet partner
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zippy impressive university depressive
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zippy impressive university depressive
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
glittery jew rigpig
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: zippy impressive university depressive



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: obsidian insecure knife

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: zippy impressive university depressive

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: obsidian insecure knife

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: obsidian insecure knife

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: zippy impressive university depressive

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: obsidian insecure knife

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: obsidian insecure knife

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: zippy impressive university depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: obsidian insecure knife



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Flatulent Slate Scourge Upon The Earth French Chef

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: obsidian insecure knife

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Flatulent Slate Scourge Upon The Earth French Chef



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: godawful cruise ship associate

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: obsidian insecure knife

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: overrated striped hyena becky

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: obsidian insecure knife

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: cocky silver menage background story

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: obsidian insecure knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: zippy impressive university depressive



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: frisky garnet partner

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Ivory Degenerate

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: obsidian insecure knife



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: frisky garnet partner



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: zippy impressive university depressive



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: zippy impressive university depressive



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Walnut irradiated brunch patrolman

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: glittery jew rigpig

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515738)