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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
excitant foreskin
  03/19/18
it's despicable
Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
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  03/19/18
lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
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  08/04/25
Trendash for life. What the fuck?
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  03/19/18
This literally does not exist in the English language. I hav...
Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan
  03/19/18
(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers ...
concupiscible stage
  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
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  03/19/18
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swashbuckling pea-brained legal warrant
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Is this flame
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  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
sable site main people
  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
Titillating school nowag
  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
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  03/19/18
cr, huge patent prole tell
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Hideous Forum
  03/19/18
i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
silver passionate chapel fortuitous meteor
  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
razzle-dazzle stain partner
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
razzle-dazzle stain partner
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
lavender prole resort
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
concupiscible stage
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
Embarrassed To The Bone Newt Party Of The First Part
  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
Autistic Learning Disabled Plaza National Security Agency
  03/19/18
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concupiscible stage
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
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  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
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  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
excitant foreskin
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
excitant foreskin
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
lavender prole resort
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
Hideous Forum
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
lavender prole resort
  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
Hideous Forum
  03/19/18
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  03/19/18
Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this ...
Embarrassed To The Bone Newt Party Of The First Part
  03/19/18
Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but t...
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I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
gold hospital
  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
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  05/12/18
The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the pr...
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  05/12/18
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: excitant foreskin

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Obsidian Cerebral Field Halford

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: concupiscible stage

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: aromatic infuriating weed whacker



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Ruddy Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35658763)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: concupiscible stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050284)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: multi-colored up-to-no-good friendly grandma den

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: concupiscible stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641327)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: vivacious meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641346)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: concupiscible stage

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Hideous Forum

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641427)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: motley cruise ship psychic



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: duck-like chocolate antidepressant drug



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Stirring costumed lodge azn



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: motley cruise ship psychic



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: swashbuckling pea-brained legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641406)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Autistic Learning Disabled Plaza National Security Agency

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: sable site main people

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Titillating school nowag

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: fighting house

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Hideous Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641869)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: silver passionate chapel fortuitous meteor

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle stain partner

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle stain partner

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: lavender prole resort

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: concupiscible stage

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Newt Party Of The First Part

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Autistic Learning Disabled Plaza National Security Agency

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: concupiscible stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: excitant foreskin

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac insecure organic girlfriend

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: excitant foreskin

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Spruce Indirect Expression Coldplay Fan

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: excitant foreskin

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: lavender prole resort

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Hideous Forum

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: lavender prole resort

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Hideous Forum

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: lavender prole resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641859)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Newt Party Of The First Part

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac insecure organic girlfriend

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: lavender prole resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641861)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: lavender prole resort

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: mischievous violent university

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641759)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Low-t exciting garrison wagecucks

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Filthy Round Eye

alt 0151

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645233)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Adventurous travel guidebook depressive

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: gold hospital

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: ruby potus hairy legs

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle stain partner

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: laughsome menage

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050530)