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Khabib handshake scandal perfectly exposes libs

they love the IDEA of Muslims as some benign, poorly underst...
Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
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Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
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Histrionic faggotry institution
  06/03/25
men and women aren't supposed to touch each other. anyone wh...
Violet big laser beams
  06/03/25
look at you simping for a russian muzzie LMAO
Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
Khabib is actually very friendly toward Ukraine. He applied ...
Violet big laser beams
  06/03/25
he's still a stinking muslim
Histrionic faggotry institution
  06/03/25
he’s a bitchmade faggot and here you are blowing him
Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
why, of all people, do you want to shit on Khabib? you just ...
Violet big laser beams
  06/03/25
calm down and read the OP again shitlibs like you will si...
Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
i'm calm. i don't think there was a conflict between the bri...
Violet big laser beams
  06/03/25
being sexist is okay when a muzzie does it, says the shitlib
Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
and what about when orthodox jews do it?
Violet big laser beams
  06/03/25
same kind of backwards desert dwellers I’m also aga...
Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
I love it when people repeat SHITLIB when they're the ones t...
passionate idiot house
  06/04/25
NOT racist just don't like em. Simple as
Grizzly Medicated State Cuck
  06/03/25
You sound Jewish
setstein
  08/03/25
lol at this second world nonsense. you should be deported.
soul-stirring volcanic crater field
  06/03/25
no i shouldnt
Violet big laser beams
  06/03/25
you seem to identify more with ukraine than america and via ...
soul-stirring volcanic crater field
  06/03/25
he's not doing damage to families. people are getting divorc...
Chest-beating headpube travel guidebook
  06/04/25
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Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
Boom. Gone.
Fuchsia locale
  06/03/25
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sapphire step-uncle's house
  06/03/25
why, because he's pointing out that khabib is sympathetic to...
Chest-beating headpube travel guidebook
  06/04/25
because he destroys american families for a living, engages ...
soul-stirring volcanic crater field
  06/04/25
That guy married his cousin and worships a pedo Spare me
flushed galvanic double fault international law enforcement agency
  06/03/25
every time I’ve interacted with mahoobaboob sandnigger...
sapphire step-uncle's house
  06/03/25
but man on man touching is very welcome. https://www.yah...
Opaque concupiscible really tough guy
  06/03/25
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Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
Taliban penis should not be underrated tp
Appetizing Principal's Office Nowag
  06/03/25
Islam is right about women.
Fuchsia locale
  06/03/25
it is and they have to go back
Hateful theater stage trust fund
  06/03/25
and dogs
Opaque concupiscible really tough guy
  06/03/25
touching women is faggy shit
Aqua aromatic jewess
  06/03/25
?
Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
op, would you describe shomer negiah as a caricature of back...
motley set messiness
  06/03/25
op?
motley set messiness
  06/03/25
I'm with Khabib on this one. I'll hug and kiss my bros and t...
Mind-boggling bonkers rehab
  06/03/25
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Aqua aromatic jewess
  06/03/25
Most bort libs like me are the Sam Harris/Bill Maher kind. W...
Frozen plum brunch doctorate
  06/03/25
bloodacre would willingly drink Khabib’s piss
Magenta site immigrant
  06/03/25
Tbf that 'lady' looks extremely dirty and like a mega slut.
Avocado Stag Film Community Account
  06/03/25
This is one thing I don’t begrudge conservative Muslim...
cerebral sex offender church
  06/03/25
cr. and that announcer has worked in soccer in Europe for y...
Hairless meetinghouse
  06/03/25
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Adulterous mad cow disease
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passionate idiot house
  06/04/25
the west has this woman half naked with gigantic hair on liv...
passionate idiot house
  06/04/25
calm down mohammed
soul-stirring volcanic crater field
  06/04/25
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Magenta site immigrant
  06/04/25
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sapphire step-uncle's house
  06/04/25
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Canary Buck-toothed Azn Stead
  06/04/25
That team is basically Inside the NBA but for European Socce...
Violet big laser beams
  06/04/25
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ultramarine hyperactive piazza
  06/04/25
"maybe khabib's religious practices are old school but ...
Chest-beating headpube travel guidebook
  06/04/25
yes, it's reflective of that as in shows through action a be...
passionate idiot house
  06/04/25
they're talking about this constantly on espn, right?
Idiotic Prole
  06/04/25
they won’t touch it. hell, even CBS seems to be comple...
Magenta site immigrant
  06/04/25
You love and revere your women so much that they sleep with ...
ultramarine hyperactive piazza
  06/04/25
^this fat jew cuck is speaking from experience
sapphire step-uncle's house
  06/04/25
His sperm was in her throat when you kissed her. Respect you...
ultramarine hyperactive piazza
  06/04/25
Your fat kike wife was about 50 different White guys’ ...
sapphire step-uncle's house
  06/04/25
now let’s talk about your twerking tea boys
Magenta site immigrant
  06/04/25
Thread is about women retard, stay on topic now
ultramarine hyperactive piazza
  06/04/25
no, it’s about how you muzzies don’t belong
Magenta site immigrant
  06/04/25
Most Muslims, say 1.5bn, are victims of Islam. But there...
setstein
  08/03/25


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Date: June 3rd, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

they love the IDEA of Muslims as some benign, poorly understood noble savage that is not the caricature of backwardness and misogyny that silly conservatives make them out to be

then you have a true believing muzzie who absolutely embarrassed a woman on TV and they don’t know what to make of it

https://x.com/azatalsalim/status/1929216302746378627

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982684)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982897)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:27 AM
Author: Histrionic faggotry institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982904)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Violet big laser beams

men and women aren't supposed to touch each other. anyone who has ever interacted with a muslim of either gender would know this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982905)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

look at you simping for a russian muzzie

LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982914)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:36 AM
Author: Violet big laser beams

Khabib is actually very friendly toward Ukraine. He applied for but was denied Ukrainian citizenship years ago. Since 2022, he's spoken out against the invasion.

I don't think it's fair to call him Russian when he's from Dagestan. Surely, he does not identify as Russian or with Russian "culture" in any way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982932)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:37 AM
Author: Histrionic faggotry institution

he's still a stinking muslim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982934)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:37 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

he’s a bitchmade faggot and here you are blowing him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982935)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Violet big laser beams

why, of all people, do you want to shit on Khabib? you just hate muslims?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982998)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

calm down and read the OP again

shitlibs like you will side with backwards muzzies instead of with western women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983036)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Violet big laser beams

i'm calm. i don't think there was a conflict between the british reporter and khabib. he respectfully declined to shake her hand. i'm not siding with anyone because there's no dispute to be honest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983066)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

being sexist is okay when a muzzie does it, says the shitlib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983217)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: Violet big laser beams

and what about when orthodox jews do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983228)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 11:37 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

same kind of backwards desert dwellers

I’m also against them sucking little baby cocks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983306)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 5:23 AM
Author: passionate idiot house

I love it when people repeat SHITLIB when they're the ones taking a shitlib position. oh no the sexism and misogny! lol fag.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985500)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 12:23 PM
Author: Grizzly Medicated State Cuck

NOT racist just don't like em. Simple as

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983421)



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Date: August 3rd, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: setstein

You sound Jewish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#49152574)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:38 AM
Author: soul-stirring volcanic crater field

lol at this second world nonsense. you should be deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982939)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:39 AM
Author: Violet big laser beams

no i shouldnt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982941)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: soul-stirring volcanic crater field

you seem to identify more with ukraine than america and via your profession you do a significant amount of damage to american families in new jersey. this country really would be better off if you left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983061)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Chest-beating headpube travel guidebook

he's not doing damage to families. people are getting divorced. When money, kids, and crazy people are involved it's never going to be pleasant. Knowing his personality, I doubt he adds more fuel to the fire. He's a chill guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985945)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:44 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982953)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Fuchsia locale

Boom. Gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982999)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: sapphire step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983078)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: Chest-beating headpube travel guidebook

why, because he's pointing out that khabib is sympathetic to ukraine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985936)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:58 AM
Author: soul-stirring volcanic crater field

because he destroys american families for a living, engages in human trafficking and cares about our foreign enemies more than the people of the country he lives in as a guest and profits from. also you pee sitting down and fart cum from your asshole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48986224)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: flushed galvanic double fault international law enforcement agency

That guy married his cousin and worships a pedo

Spare me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983039)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: sapphire step-uncle's house

every time I’ve interacted with mahoobaboob sandnigger bitches they touched my cock and I don’t do their gay rug bullshit so you’re wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983087)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: Opaque concupiscible really tough guy

but man on man touching is very welcome.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/took-vacation-taliban-fell-love-140058981.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983099)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983218)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 11:23 PM
Author: Appetizing Principal's Office Nowag

Taliban penis should not be underrated tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985205)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: Fuchsia locale

Islam is right about women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48982913)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: Hateful theater stage trust fund

it is and they have to go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983069)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: Opaque concupiscible really tough guy

and dogs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983086)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: Aqua aromatic jewess

touching women is faggy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983100)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 6:34 PM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48984587)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:40 AM
Author: motley set messiness

op, would you describe shomer negiah as a caricature of backwardness and misogyny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983136)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: motley set messiness

op?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48984773)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Mind-boggling bonkers rehab

I'm with Khabib on this one. I'll hug and kiss my bros and totally ignore their wives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983151)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:52 AM
Author: Aqua aromatic jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983187)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 12:25 PM
Author: Frozen plum brunch doctorate

Most bort libs like me are the Sam Harris/Bill Maher kind. We don’t like Muslims or their culture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983426)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

bloodacre would willingly drink Khabib’s piss

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48983624)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: Avocado Stag Film Community Account

Tbf that 'lady' looks extremely dirty and like a mega slut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48984681)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: cerebral sex offender church

This is one thing I don’t begrudge conservative Muslims or Jews on. If it’s his sincerely held religious belief idgaf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985187)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Hairless meetinghouse

cr.

and that announcer has worked in soccer in Europe for years and she has to know that Muslim men have that view. to her credit, she didn't make a big thing out of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985200)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 11:39 PM
Author: Adulterous mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985213)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 5:25 AM
Author: passionate idiot house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985501)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 5:33 AM
Author: passionate idiot house

the west has this woman half naked with gigantic hair on live tv acting like she's "just one of the guys" because "women and men are the same" and she is really, really, really a serious sports commentator and not just a pair of tits in a revealing outfit (all of the men in suits btw) performing this weird kabuki theater as the audience undergo the humiliation ritual of being forced to pretend this woman has something to say about sports and it's just up there as a superficial feminist symbol but actually just a piece of eye candy.

maybe khabib's religious practices are old school but i think that they reflect and demonstrate a much more profound love and respect for women than the west does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985503)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:27 AM
Author: soul-stirring volcanic crater field

calm down mohammed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985727)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:48 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985839)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: sapphire step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985868)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:29 AM
Author: Canary Buck-toothed Azn Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985967)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Violet big laser beams

That team is basically Inside the NBA but for European Soccer.

The men are all former players (Thierry Henry, Jamie Carragher and Micah Richards) and bust each others balls and provide insight and commentary. Kate Scott is the cute journalist moderator kind of like Ernie Johnson (not that i think he's cute or whatever).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985824)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: ultramarine hyperactive piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985946)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: Chest-beating headpube travel guidebook

"maybe khabib's religious practices are old school but i think that they reflect and demonstrate a much more profound love and respect for women than the west does."

lol please. not shaking a woman's hand reflects profound love and respect? your first paragraph is ok, though a little too incel twitter but that last sentence. c'mon bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985965)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: passionate idiot house

yes, it's reflective of that as in shows through action a belief that men and women are different and we should be wary about their interactions. i'd say the same about a burqa. obviously i don't fucking think that men shouldn't shake hands with women and women should be completely covered in public. i'm just saying (EXPLICITLY OUTDATED TO SIGNAL I DON'T AGREE IN SUBSTANCE YOU RC FAIL FAGGOT) it *reflects* something i think it's wise.

and it's far better than the western alternative where bonnie blue fucking 1000 dudes and walking around in public covered in cum is seen as YAS QUEEN SOOOO LIBERATING AND EMPOWERING!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48987186)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:30 AM
Author: Idiotic Prole

they're talking about this constantly on espn, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985741)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 9:53 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

they won’t touch it. hell, even CBS seems to be completely ignoring

conservative news are all over it, and the shitlib sites that do mention it are saying shit like “there’s a perfectly gold explanation - he’s a backwards muzzie and here’s what that’s great and admirable”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985854)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: ultramarine hyperactive piazza

You love and revere your women so much that they sleep with an average of 37 men before shacking up with a sadsack like you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985943)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: sapphire step-uncle's house

^this fat jew cuck is speaking from experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985956)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: ultramarine hyperactive piazza

His sperm was in her throat when you kissed her. Respect yourself before you can respect women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48986032)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: sapphire step-uncle's house

Your fat kike wife was about 50 different White guys’ worst option on a late night out before she decided to put up with a whiny fag like you

But I’m sure you respect that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48986138)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

now let’s talk about your twerking tea boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48986106)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: ultramarine hyperactive piazza

Thread is about women retard, stay on topic now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48986178)



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Date: June 4th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Magenta site immigrant

no, it’s about how you muzzies don’t belong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#48986661)



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Date: August 3rd, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: setstein

Most Muslims, say 1.5bn, are victims of Islam.

But there are also hundreds of millions(!), say 3-400m, who are Islamic enforcers. These are crazy but realistic numbers and these omnipresent enforcers represent the core social/military(same) strength of Islam.

If one extinguishes enough of these, the majority would be able to free themselves from that debilitating ideology.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5732820&forum_id=2/en-en/#49152622)