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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
navy becky
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
glassy jet-lagged lay
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
hairless sienna den idea he suggested
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
glassy jet-lagged lay
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: navy becky

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: canary bat shit crazy business firm preventive strike

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: canary bat shit crazy business firm preventive strike

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: glassy jet-lagged lay

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: hairless sienna den idea he suggested

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: glassy jet-lagged lay

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: hairless sienna den idea he suggested

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: glassy jet-lagged lay

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Idiotic tank bawdyhouse

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring azn digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: fishy theater stage therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Olive Histrionic Trump Supporter Roommate

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Dead godawful tanning salon mother

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Coiffed Garnet Menage Regret

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Idiotic tank bawdyhouse

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: exciting purple dopamine round eye

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Wonderful Mauve Sex Offender Candlestick Maker

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Ebony chest-beating nursing home deer antler

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2:#49105022)