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RATE The $65 ETROG (Citron Fruit) I Bought (PIC)
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Date: October 6th, 2025 9:09 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., https://i.imgur.com/ot7q9cq.jpeg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328292) |
Date: October 6th, 2025 10:22 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328470) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 10:50 AM Author: no.1 clocksmasher very firm, good pattern of grooves on the skin, tasteful neon sports beverage peel color i like the ones that have the little nub on top |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., ofs. love me a big uncircumcised pitom (nub) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328592) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 11:17 AM Author: no.1 clocksmasher More of a nipple than a dicktip I think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328676) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 11:33 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., lol. maybe the clidick is the thing at the bottom that attaches to the tree? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328736) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 11:37 AM Author: no.1 clocksmasher i think that's right if i had to guess the nub is probably a nutrient pouch |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 11:44 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., interesting q. chatgpt says it's the etrog's clit:
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what is the biologicial purpose of a the pitam on the etrog (citron fruit)? ChatGPT said:
Great question — and a surprisingly deep one botanically!
The pitam (פִּטָם) on an etrog — the little stemlike protrusion with a “button” at the end opposite the branch — actually corresponds to the style and stigma of the citron flower (the female reproductive part). In biological terms, it’s the remnant of the flower’s pistil that remains attached after pollination and fruit development.
Here’s the breakdown:
In most fruits (like lemons, oranges, etc.), the style and stigma dry up and fall off once the fruit begins to grow.
In etrogim (and certain other varieties of citron), however, the pitam persists as the fruit matures.
The ball-like structure at the tip of the pitam is the stigma (where pollen lands), and the thin column is the style, which once connected the stigma to the ovary inside the fruit.
So, biologically, the pitam had a reproductive purpose during flowering — enabling pollination and fertilization — but by the time we see the fruit, it’s just a leftover floral structure with no ongoing function for the plant.
Interestingly, many commercial citron varieties (especially those grown for fragrance or food) have been bred to drop the pitam early so the fruit isn’t damaged easily — the pitam can fall off with a small bump, which is why for sukkot we’re careful that it remain intact (pitam shenafal = invalid).
So in short:
🌼 Biological purpose: originally part of the flower’s reproductive organ (style and stigma). 🍋 Current role: none — just a remnant after pollination, but culturally significant for ritual use.
Would you like me to show a labeled diagram of an etrog flower and fruit showing which parts correspond to the pitam? |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 11:50 AM Author: no.1 clocksmasher (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328799) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 11:52 AM Author: no.1 clocksmasher if people grow them for food why are they so expensive? is it just the ritual-friendly ones that command the big numbers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328806) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 12:19 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., not a mfe, but afak it's bc of grafting.
a kosher citron tree can't be grafted, and all of the citrons used for food are grafted.
so you only have a limited number of trees in the world that are eligible to produce kosher etrogs. and then a ton of them have various blemishes to make them not-kosher.
so yeah, kinda what you say -- the ritual-friendly ones command the big numbers.
plus, a lot of the industry is jewish mafia -- jews driving up the prices to fuck over other jews. |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: no.1 clocksmasher why do they do that stuff man ritual objects should be cheap and easily accessible. maybe you don't get the finest etrog for 10$ but it should be servicable and have a nice nub on it. a "good" quality of reagants or services in religious activity should never be price-gated. it's like selling indulgences |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 3:19 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., rofl this is jews.
wait until you see how much jews overcharge other jews on kosher for passover food.
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Date: October 6th, 2025 3:26 PM Author: no.1 clocksmasher doesn't it pollute the moral quality of the ritual function being performed with the object when the seller is engaged in gouging, which is effectively a form of exploitation? this isn't a jewish unique issue per se but i do see a lot of it with jews a common israeli expat complaint about israel is "every jew is constantly trying to grift the others" there. it makes no sense. wasn't the country founded on the strength of the kibbutz? is it because the israeli population makeup is so racially diverse now? |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 3:34 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., ofs it all feels like a scam. apologists would just call it supply and demand.
anyway, the torah requires you to acquire an etrog and it doesn't say you're exempt if the seller is trying to gouge you. so you dont have a choice.
you're not allowed to perform a ritual on a stolen item. you cant steal an etrog and get credit for fulfilling the mitzvah. but you still have to get gouged.
the kibbutz culture of israel is completely dead. the kibbutzniks were commie ashkenazis. between the barbaric sephardim and the sleazy russians and the need for israel to be capitalistic to keep up with the rest of the world, there's no way kibbutz socialism could survive.
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Date: October 6th, 2025 3:39 PM Author: no.1 clocksmasher why isn't there rabbinical law putting an onus on the sellers as well? the purview of the temple would include both sides of the transaction if it's oriented around a ritual object, and jews seem to listen to rabbis more than christians do to their priests, on average. catholics had dogma about this in certain countries throughout europe regarding sellers of votives and other ritual objects, with the caveat that it was on what merchants could sell directly to the church which is a little more suspect than regulating the market entirely to release the faithful from needless burden (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49329756) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 3:42 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., tbf, there's jewish law that a seller is only allowed to charge a 1/6 markup on a good, but there are all sorts of exceptions to that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49329764) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 3:44 PM Author: no.1 clocksmasher yeah i could see how you could lawyer your way around that pretty easily, depending on the chain of custody (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49329767) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 11:12 AM Author: richard clock nice etrog (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328661) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: \'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\\ $65? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328947) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 12:31 PM Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐) what in the fuck is going on itt? op paid $65 for a citron? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328957) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., tbf, it also came with a palm frond, 2 willow branches, and 3 myrtle branches (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328996) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 12:31 PM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6) durian>>>>>>>>>>>>that shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328960) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 12:44 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., *azngirl shaking a durian on sukkot* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49328997) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 1:41 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., love this stock photo: https://forward.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/GettyImages-456736032.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49329219) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 3:34 PM Author: no.1 clocksmasher irl lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5783584&forum_id=2:#49329741) |
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Date: October 6th, 2025 3:38 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., moar:
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