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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
floppy glassy church
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onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
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  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
floppy glassy church
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Twinkling Confused Casino Place Of Business
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
floppy glassy church
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
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I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
floppy glassy church
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Twinkling Confused Casino Place Of Business
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state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
floppy glassy church
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
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floppy glassy church
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Yellow appetizing point tattoo
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
floppy glassy church
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Yellow appetizing point tattoo
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Wonderful Sinister Travel Guidebook
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
floppy glassy church
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Soul-stirring orchid giraffe house
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
floppy glassy church
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How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
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  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
puce frum police squad
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: floppy glassy church

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Twinkling Confused Casino Place Of Business

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: floppy glassy church

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Twinkling Confused Casino Place Of Business

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: floppy glassy church

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Twinkling Confused Casino Place Of Business

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: floppy glassy church

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Twinkling Confused Casino Place Of Business

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: floppy glassy church

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Twinkling Confused Casino Place Of Business

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: floppy glassy church



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Yellow appetizing point tattoo

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: floppy glassy church

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Yellow appetizing point tattoo



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Wonderful Sinister Travel Guidebook

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: floppy glassy church

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Soul-stirring orchid giraffe house

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: floppy glassy church

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Alcoholic scourge upon the earth

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: floppy glassy church



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Walnut garrison therapy

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: elite pisswyrm

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: onyx orchestra pit sneaky criminal



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Twinkling Confused Casino Place Of Business

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: puce frum police squad

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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