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My professional wrestling Mt. Rushmore ITT
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:03 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre The Rock Stone Cold Steve Austin John Cena Roman Reigns |
Date: July 7th, 2024 4:05 PM Author: free-loading pale roommate forum LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47817953) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:08 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre my mt rushmore is 180
poast yours |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:20 PM Author: free-loading pale roommate forum Hogan flair stone cold mr. McMahon
Probably needs someone friend the 60s/70s but I don't know how to exclude those 4 |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:24 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre you can take out John Cena and add in Hogan on my mt. rushmore.
Vince is the greatest promoter of all time, but he was never the biggest draw.
I guess I'm basing my Mt. Rushmore on drawing power and the top four draws in the history of the business would be Hulk, Stone Cold, The Rock, and Roman Reigns.
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:28 PM Author: free-loading pale roommate forum You can't write the story of pro wrestling without Vince, Hogan, or flair. I think Austin is the best of the rest, though if the rock had committed 100% he'd probably be in.
Reigns/Cena are fine rasslers, and I personally love Cena in his other roles, but they are not essential to the history of wrestling like the others |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:31 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre Ric Flair is grossly overrated in terms of his drawing power.
I disagree w/re to Reings -- he's taken pro-wrestling to its greatest heights and is largely responsible for WWE's current 10 billion dollar valuation.
It was on the shoulders of the Rock and Stone Cold and Hogan and modern pro wrestling is vince's creation -- but Reigns is arguably the biggest draw of all time in terms of dollars and eyeballs on the product. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:37 PM Author: free-loading pale roommate forum I understand your love for reigns, I just don't think he's as important as flair.
Just like Bonds and Clemens wouldn't be on my MLB Rushmore (dgaf about roids), because they weren't more important than Mays and Cy Young (or W. Johnson or Mathewson) even though they were better players |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:46 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre Flair is one of the best for sure, but, if there were no ric flair-- pro wrestling would still be what it is today.
I can't imagine pro wrestling without Hogan, Rock, Stone Cold, Cena, and Reigns |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:52 PM Author: free-loading pale roommate forum I was most into pro wrestling during the height of stone cold and the rock. They're my two favorite all timers, easily. But I think you need to pick one from that era.
Maybe you have a point about flair but he was big for so fucking long and kept the non-wwf segment alive for decades almost singlehandedly.
IDK how you can not include Vince. He should probably be the first and easiest choice. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:04 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre Pro Wrestling IS Vince -- its hard for me to quantify him and rank him - he transcends all that -- its like putting the American flag or the Constitution on Mt. Rushmore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818156) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:04 PM Author: Underhanded sneaky criminal reading party Reigns possibly eclipses Cena as being the first guy since Rock/Austin to really feel bigger than WWE.
Cena was supercena and could beat anyone, but it always seemed like he was playing the same sport as everyone else
Reigns level of dominance was sustained for so long that they made a backup world title as a consolation prize for the guys with no chance of even touching Reign's title.
Cena was Lebron James. Reigns was Michael Jordan. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:05 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre I agree with this wholeheartedly. MFCR take (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818158) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:18 PM Author: Indigo beady-eyed sanctuary stone cold vince macho man piper |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:19 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre legit list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818004) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 10:32 PM Author: Maize Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818983) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:25 PM Author: sapphire immigrant Andre, Hogan, Stone Cold, Rock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818026) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:29 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre I was an infant when Andre was peak-- was he that big of a deal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818037) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:48 PM Author: startling opaque den He was extremely big in every sense of the word, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818703) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:46 PM Author: iridescent swashbuckling coldplay fan hall Titcr. Lol at not including the giant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818109) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:35 PM Author: Brilliant Affirmative Action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818216) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 10:26 PM Author: Sooty medicated private investor step-uncle's house take off the rock and put on macho man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818967) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 10:44 PM Author: sapphire immigrant ridiculous. Rock has been a main event for 20+ years. macho man lasted 5. he never even beat hogan - that was the ultimate warrior. besides, no jews on the list. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47819010) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:04 AM Author: naked glittery home useless brakes the only CR itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47819311) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:29 PM Author: Mint Passionate Prole Potus Ric Flair Shawn Michaels Bret Hart Terry Funk |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:31 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre lot of ric flair love
You're workrate guy? |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:36 PM Author: 180 quadroon Replace Cena and Reigns with Hogan and Flair.
My personal:
(1) HBK: Best in-ring performer of all-time. His portfolio of great matches is unparalleled.
(2) Undertaker: Longevity, character (and continuous reinvention of it to keep it fresh), and severely underrated in-ring ability. Gets a major bump for being in the greatest match of all-time, Taker vs. HBK WM25.
(3) Bret Hart: The epitome of a professional wrestler and easily the best technical wrestler of all-time. Would have rivaled HBK for best ever had Goldberg not prematurely ended his career.
(4) Rob Van Dam: To me, he's the most innovative wrestler ever. Had a major influence on an entire generation of wrestlers in a way I don't think anyone can claim. Watch any AEW, NJPW, or indie card and you will see the DNA of RVD vs. Jerry Lynn in every match.
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:42 PM Author: free-loading pale roommate forum We didn't share any picks and I still love this list.
I think these might be the "best" but not the most "important" which is what I think of for Rushmore inclusion |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:47 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre MFCR, great fucking list. RVD "one of a kind" wasn't just a gimmick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818110) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:54 PM Author: free-loading pale roommate forum Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818130) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:36 PM Author: Brilliant Affirmative Action Are we talking about in ring performance only? Schtick? Influence and legacy?
Hard to argue with a list like:
Austin Hogan Rock Andre
Would like to slide Flair in there. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:44 PM Author: free-loading pale roommate forum You've asked an important question snoot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818099) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:44 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre Im going off of pure drawing power
Leaving Hogan off might be a mistake on my end -- but his star power has waned a lot.
He's responsible for the wrestling boom -- first with WWF and then his heel turn ignited WCW for a very short while.
I put John Cena ahead of him because Cena's run was longer, more sustained, and drew more money than Hogan's run. There's an entire generation of kids that will have nothing but fond memories of Cena and will never see him slumming it in TNA or mired in controversy. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:47 PM Author: iridescent swashbuckling coldplay fan hall Rock is the Teddy Roosevelt of the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818694) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:45 PM Author: appetizing arrogant digit ratio Haven't watched since early 00's, but this would be mine
Hulk Hogan Undertaker Bret Hart Shawn Michaels |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:49 PM Author: Puce Tank Box Office HBK - no one can match his in-ring ability. He was also very good on the mic, especially as a heel. Austin - charisma, mic skills are unmatched. He was also a very good wrestler before his neck injury. His match with HBK at KOTR 97 was excellent. Hogan - his best run imo was 95-00 as Hollywood Hogan. Bret Hart - in ring ability 2nd only to HBK.
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:07 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre I have Bret Hart ahead of Michaels as in ring worker
Hogan's hollywood hogan run peaked in 96 and then fell of a cliff by 98 |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:38 PM Author: Brilliant Affirmative Action Hogan was pushing 50 by that time. He could have left wrestling altogether after leaving WWF and it would have no impact on his legacy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818219) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:11 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre His legacy was definitely bolstered by his Hollywood Hogan run. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818563) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:15 PM Author: Brilliant Affirmative Action ok but it peaked at strarrcade '97. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47819097) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:58 PM Author: Underhanded sneaky criminal reading party Hogan Austin (bigger than The Rock other than in 2000) Cena Reigns (might get bumped by Cody) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:05 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre Cody's reign has been very underwhelming so far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818159) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:34 PM Author: Brilliant Affirmative Action Rey Mysterio Billy Kidman Ultimo Dragon Juventud |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:42 PM Author: 180 quadroon (7th grade me having the time of my life with WCW/nWo Revenge on a Saturday night)
But seriously Rey Jr. and Ultimo absolutely deserve recognition. Both are historically important internationally. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:11 PM Author: Vermilion mentally impaired theatre cr but any mention of Juventud reminds me of the Rock's promo on Jericho
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Date: July 7th, 2024 9:34 PM Author: 180 quadroon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGsBRImD0po
All-time great promo by Y2J. Apparently, he just threw it together the night before. Also, world class frowning by The Rock during that promo lol. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:26 PM Author: Brilliant Affirmative Action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818620) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:45 PM Author: angry umber voyeur Hogan Flair Rock HBK |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 6:26 PM Author: Silver casino laser beams 1. HBK
2-4 are up for debate or a matter of personal preference.
HTH |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 10:20 PM Author: pearly talented chad No list can be taken seriously without hogan flair Austin. Fourth can be argued but prob one of vince rock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47818954) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:45 PM Author: Brilliant Affirmative Action Of course it can. I love flair but insisting he has to be on the list is nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47819200) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:06 AM Author: naked glittery home useless brakes this. Flair spent majority of his career in the minors (wcw). he's great, but the wwf is the only league that matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2:#47819314) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:21 AM Author: Mint Passionate Prole Potus So did Sting and he’s hovering right on the outside of the top 5.
Some of Hogans best work was as heel Hollywood Hogan. |