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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
  12/16/25
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Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
vermilion locale dingle berry
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
vermilion locale dingle berry
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
vermilion locale dingle berry
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
vermilion locale dingle berry
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
vermilion locale dingle berry
  12/17/25
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Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home
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Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Spruce trip electric furnace native
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
  12/16/25
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Spruce trip electric furnace native
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
henna sinister brunch windowlicker
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Green dog poop
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Naked Laser Beams
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Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
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Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Racy International Law Enforcement Agency Jap
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
geriatric boltzmann french chef
  12/17/25
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Boyish rose scourge upon the earth
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Racy International Law Enforcement Agency Jap
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Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home
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Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
vermilion locale dingle berry
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Buff spot
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: vermilion locale dingle berry

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: vermilion locale dingle berry

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: vermilion locale dingle berry

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: vermilion locale dingle berry

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: vermilion locale dingle berry

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Spruce trip electric furnace native

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Spruce trip electric furnace native



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: henna sinister brunch windowlicker

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Green dog poop

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Naked Laser Beams

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Racy International Law Enforcement Agency Jap

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: geriatric boltzmann french chef

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Boyish rose scourge upon the earth



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Racy International Law Enforcement Agency Jap



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Sticky Cheese-eating Doctorate Home



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: vermilion locale dingle berry

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Buff spot

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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