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Rate my PC build for large model local LLM
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Date: December 11th, 2024 1:25 AM Author: pale ape native AMD Ryzen 9 9950X GPU1: RTX 4090 GPU2: RTX A6000 128gb RAM 8TB NVMe 4.0 Windows 11 Pro |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 2:03 AM Author: Sticky awkward boistinker azn why not two 4090 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48435788) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 2:12 AM Author: pale ape native My combo is more optimal for dual GPU since you can't onboard dual 4090s on 1 motherboard and eGPU throttles 50-70% of 4090 performance due to inherent bandwidth limitations with thunderbolt connection vs A6000 is optimized for low bandwidth and has 48gb VRAM (vs 24gb for 4090) to handle massive data sets
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Date: December 11th, 2024 3:34 AM Author: Sticky awkward boistinker azn the CPU absolutely does nothing for LLM? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48435877) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 5:14 AM Author: pale ape native CPU matters. That's why I got the best one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48435907) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 8:22 AM Author: aphrodisiac church building There's something called CPU offloading where some processing is handled by the CPU. But the kind of operations used in LLMs is different than the kind of operations at which CPUs excel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48436129) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 1:36 PM Author: pale ape native Do you think Apple's future M4 max/ultra cpu will be better at LLM? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48437276) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 2:57 PM Author: aphrodisiac church building no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48437673) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 9:20 PM Author: sexy haunted graveyard elastic band M1 Ultra is still plenty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48533861) |
Date: December 11th, 2024 1:34 AM Author: Sooty electric sandwich double fault i have similar but just for poasting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48435773) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 2:14 AM Author: pale ape native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48435795) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 3:05 PM Author: aquamarine stirring center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48437693) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 9:07 PM Author: irradiated office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438902) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 11:24 AM Author: Razzmatazz institution trump supporter Where are you finding 4090s for sale that aren't jacked up 2x MSRP by scalpers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48436665) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 1:33 PM Author: pale ape native I got it months ago and just putting together now.
Are prices on 4090 still that bad? I thought 5090 and 5080 were about to drop any day now |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 1:34 PM Author: razzle-dazzle ladyboy For work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48437264) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 8:56 PM Author: pale ape native Yep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438874) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 1:35 PM Author: crimson plaza Is setting up a local LLM pretty easy? Does it need coding savvy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48437271) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 1:36 PM Author: razzle-dazzle ladyboy really easy with ollama, https://ollama.com/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48437274) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 1:38 PM Author: aquamarine stirring center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48437286) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 3:40 PM Author: heady coral nowag crackhouse whats the benefit of running these locally vs just subscribing to claude or whatever
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Date: December 11th, 2024 3:45 PM Author: razzle-dazzle ladyboy the ones running locally are not as powerful and don't accept really long context windows. the main benefit is no limits to the number of requests and you can find uncensored models. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48437832) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 3:55 PM Author: heady coral nowag crackhouse does the hardware above make it practical to train your own? could you train on just on a giant dump of legal cases and get one superior at legal research at the expense of everything else, or is that even available better commercially at this point?
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Date: December 11th, 2024 4:38 PM Author: pale ape native 1) Yes the above hardware can easily handle large models and is possibly even overkill for CRM, basic legal queries / prompts about client's file, and drafting complex legal briefs
2) Local llm with win10 Pro (eg, ollama, GPT4All, chat rtx) is the ONLY option for attorneys to do this offline given client data sensitivity
3) if you spent $10k on a fully spec'd out Mac Pro/Studio with 192gb unified ram it would not come close to this setup for local LLM in terms of speed and ability to handle large data and complex writing tasks |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 5:23 PM Author: razzle-dazzle ladyboy 0 chance you will be able to train your own LLM, these companies spend tens of millions $$$ on gpu hardware to train an LLM.
The best you can do locally is "retrieval augmented generation" that is specific to legal cases/research. |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 1:37 PM Author: Histrionic Plum Striped Hyena You don’t need this much power just to take notes/exams at NYU Law tax classes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48437283) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 8:48 PM Author: pale ape native 163 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438847) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 10:29 PM Author: irradiated office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48439148) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 10:32 PM Author: autistic resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48439153) |
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Date: December 12th, 2024 12:12 PM Author: irradiated office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48440746) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 4:41 PM Author: vivacious trailer park telephone how much did it all come to? will a local llm be capable of translating from exotic languages? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438026) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 8:52 PM Author: pale ape native Under $5k but I didn't buy a6000 card yet
Those fuckers are expensive! |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 5:25 PM Author: peach regret how many watts does the PSU have? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438199) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 8:50 PM Author: pale ape native 170
Edit: this is the CPU watts |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 9:06 PM Author: peach regret that's a bit low, I don't think u actually have built a computer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438901) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 9:15 PM Author: pale ape native Dark Side of the Moon 1350W PSU, Advanced Liquid Cooled CPU & Clear Side Panel Item number: 321-BIKW |
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Date: December 12th, 2024 8:50 AM Author: peach regret You are using an OEM Alienware part for you PSU? How does that make sense? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48440037) |
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Date: December 12th, 2024 8:54 AM Author: maroon godawful goyim OP is growing a beard and changing monikres as we speak (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48440043) |
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Date: December 12th, 2024 10:17 AM Author: pale ape native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48440299) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 8:53 PM Author: ocher area depressive I really want to put together my own local LLM setup too. Tagging this thread for later. 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438860) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 8:53 PM Author: pale ape native We should start a discord or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438863) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 8:59 PM Author: ocher area depressive I'm down, I'm still a total noob at this I haven't even started to do my own research on what hardware I'll need (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438883) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 9:01 PM Author: pale ape native If you have an M2 or later MacBook/mini you can install ollama or lm studio right now on an external ssd and start fucking around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48438889) |
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Date: December 11th, 2024 10:31 PM Author: Sticky awkward boistinker azn can u show us what u can do with ur setup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48439150) |
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Date: December 12th, 2024 10:23 AM Author: Yellow Adventurous Piazza What will you use it for? How is it better than just getting a subscription to Claude/ChatGPT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48440310) |
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Date: December 12th, 2024 10:58 AM Author: pale ape native Re 1st question: scaling and streamlining CRM and customer service; reducing bottlenecks, automating as much of the client lifecycle as possible Re 2nd question: mainly compliance with HIPAA, SCA, ECPA, CPRA etc |
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Date: December 12th, 2024 11:04 AM Author: Sticky awkward boistinker azn link to wat u can get from ur setup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48440496) |
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Date: December 12th, 2024 1:06 PM Author: maroon godawful goyim automating as much of the client lifecycle as possible
tptptptp |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 8:34 PM Author: Razzmatazz institution trump supporter Bump for 5090, how many are you getting OP? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48533708) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 9:08 PM Author: crimson plaza Isn't it just easier to buy a Mac Studio or whatever it's called? Supposedly it's very good for private LLM stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48533823) |
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Date: January 28th, 2025 3:12 PM Author: Soul-stirring irate property You can use this for DeepSeek now! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5647806&forum_id=2:#48598692) |