Did Kennedy suck as potus?
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Date: January 2nd, 2025 7:58 AM Author: cowgod
You had this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_summit
then bay of pigs, then Cuban missile crisis
In retrospect the summit may be seen as a failure. The two leaders became increasingly frustrated at the lack of progress of the negotiations. Kennedy later said of Khrushchev, "He beat the hell out of me" and told New York Times reporter James 'Scotty' Reston immediately afterwards it was the "worst thing in my life. He savaged me."[17] On the other hand, Khrushchev viewed the summit in a much more positive light. In his memoir he showed ambivalence, writing, "I was generally pleased with our meeting in Vienna. Even though we came to no concrete agreement, I could tell that [Kennedy] was interested in finding a peaceful solution to world problems and avoiding conflict with the Soviet Union."[18] However, historian William Taubman suggests that Khrushchev merely felt he could "push Kennedy around."[19]
In addition to conveying US reluctance to defend the full rights of Berlin's citizens, Kennedy ignored his own cabinet officials' advice to avoid ideological debate with Khrushchev. Khrushchev outmatched Kennedy in this debate and came away believing he had triumphed in the summit over a weak and inexperienced leader. Observing Kennedy's morose expression at the end of the summit, Khrushchev believed Kennedy "looked not only anxious, but deeply upset.... I hadn't meant to upset him. I would have liked very much for us to part in a different mood. But there was nothing I could do to help him.... Politics is a merciless business."[20]
After the failure of the Bay of Pigs Invasion, the construction of the Berlin Wall, and the Cuban Missile Crisis, then Kennedy believed that another failure on the part of the United States to gain control and stop communist expansion would fatally damage US credibility with its allies and his own reputation. He was thus determined to "draw a line in the sand" and prevent a communist victory in the Vietnam War. He told Reston, "Now we have a problem making our power credible and Vietnam looks like the place."[21][22]
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Date: January 2nd, 2025 10:29 AM
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He's still coasting on libs' infatuation with him. But his record was wildly uneven and had some terrible flaws in it.
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Date: January 2nd, 2025 10:39 AM Author: Die Hard 2: Die Harder
Obama of his day.
Except you couldn’t say anything bad after he was killed
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Date: January 2nd, 2025 11:32 AM Author: 718-662-5970
He recognized the CIA for what it was, fully intended to shatter it, but lacked the political courage / power to fully take on Dulles.
This was the singular battle of his potussy and probably the deciding battle of the 20th Century. Had he conquered the CIA, we would likely still live in a representative democratic constitutional republic.
But we know how the battle resolved, and its why his assassination is far more meaningful than anyone else's
ANY consideration of jfk must be centered in this one issue: jfk vs dulles
it has been the story of are political lives
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