W is above average. Biden is probably also above average.

George H.W. - probably genius level.

Reagan - above average

Carter - well above average

Ford - above average

Nixon - borderline genius

LBJ - above average

Kennedy - above average

Eisenhower - well above average

Truman - genius

FDR - genius

Hoover - above average

I don't think we've ever had a middling or average IQ president.

I think all presidents necessarily must be at least above average IQ.

thoughts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47745229)

Classic smartest guy in the room syndrome when he’s actually the dumbest. This is obviously up until a few years ago; he’s now almost certainly affected by dementia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47745343)

even Kamala Harris I think is probably 120 or 125 or so.

She’s purely political, zero charisma, doesn’t “know” a lot about the world or geography probably, but she used all the points she had in ruthlessly clawing her way up in a million conversations and social angling she’s done over her lifetime, including fucking Willie Brown, probably fucking like 10-20 other guys for very small incremental social and political gains, getting the right ppl around her to tell everyone on her way up that Biden and Newsome need people like her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47745379)

and Trump never personally filed bankruptcy. that is another jewish lie you jews keep jewishly spewing out. financing his businesses via debt rather than handing out equity to wall st kikes was completely correct and 180 like everything he does. problem is the jews don't get their piece like they do with every other dipshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47762795)

As a businessman he's mid at best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47747467)

He does have a third std ability to speak as if he is utterly convinced of whatever nonsense he's spouting. you see that fairly often in dumb actors, dumb preachers, dumb salesmen, and dumb politicians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47745418)

you have to be pretty savvy and intelligent to maneuver around the US political landscape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47750522)

But its still weird how dumb some of them are. Like think of how many big law alumni there are. Like 98% of them are smarter than Kamala/Biden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47746980)

Nixon on other POTUSes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MacmN1EtIPQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47747444)

But, I don't disagree, Nixon was a brain for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47750524)

this man never ran for political office in his life and became POTUS against a shoe-in juggernaut based purely on his wits and charm -- he's a genius.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47750526)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47750862)

With politicians, most of them are only slightly above average, at best, in terms of phenotype.

Dare I say, even AOC is likely working with at least 120 IQ points.

Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Green -- I'd say 115 maybe, I'd fuck the shit out of all three of the above though... unghhhh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47750529)

Top 5 smartest: Jefferson, Lincoln, Clinton, Nixon, Madison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47747663)

Trump definitely not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47750536)

As a boy, Warren Harding's nickname was Adonis, and he legitimately rose to national prominence and then the presidency on his looks alone. The guy couldn't govern worth a damn, but as a newspaper man he avoided printing negative press about either party, and that made him a lot of friends. Problem was, he was constitutionally unable to say "no" to his many friends, and that's what led to Teapot Dome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47750873)

Add to this, that there are many situations where the smart maneuver is camouflaging exactly how smart you actually are.

It's easy to sort of see this on the macro level, where seeming like 'the guy you want to have beer with' might be better for vote getting than seeming like 'the guy who knows how to perfectly pronounce every world leaders name'.

This almost certainly happens on the micro level too, where 'young people who earnestly seek the advice of their wise elders' win a lot more useful allies than 'young hotshots who know a lot of stuff that those old dinosaurs don't' do.

Such that a lot of really savvy people can fly under the radar of people playing the 'how smart are they?' parlor game.

The Caro books on LBJ are great at exploring this dynamic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47762610)

High-T > intellect.

these legions of internet autist 'Pickup Game' theorists had to mobilize all their Geek brainpower to decode and reverse-engineer the 'social intelligence' that comes to 'Chad' entirely intuitively. it's as if High-T Chad is gifted with extra photoreceptors and literally sees the world in a different visual light spectrum and low-T bros have to try to bootstrap raw intellect to even try to conceptualize what he is seeing.

ditto the Poli-Sci shithead 'journalist'/political class vis a vis Trump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47750874)

you dumb dumbs also like to bring up "trump steaks" like he was a poor businessman instead of that further proving the point that he could have stuck his name on literally anything, including sharper image steaks, and gotten paid money for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47763612)

1)Nixon and Eisenhower are the only legit geniuses in that list (Teddy also if you count him in the running)

2)LBJ and Clinton (both from a primal demonic lizard brain genius level)

3)Obama, HW, Trump, FDR

4)Carter, JFK, Truman

5)W, Reagan, Ford, Biden, Hoover, Harding,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5540601&forum_id=2:#47762631)