\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

HAM RADIO LICENSE TRENDS in the US since 1997:

kind of interesting how the numbers were in decline before I...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
recommended ham radio? is the entry level license good en...
electric double fault corner
  11/17/19
technician class (the first level) is pretty much garbage, s...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
ty
electric double fault corner
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
10m has gotten WRECKED by low sunspot activity in recent yea...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
...
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
I recommend getting involved in your local ham club, field d...
appetizing box office rigpig
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
good point
electric double fault corner
  11/17/19
...
180 dark indian lodge
  11/17/19
whats ur callsign?
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
a callsign literally OUTS you because it's available online ...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
what are your thoughts on ham radio forum guys who pressure ...
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
boomers tend to wrap up their identity in this stuff a lot m...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
its crazy when i try to poast on the QRZ forum (even though ...
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
i think they had some kind of spat with facebook over being ...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
...
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
How common are ham scofflaws? I've got some GMRS walkie t...
dull talented range
  11/17/19
GMRS isn't ham
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
I know GMRS isn't ham, I'm just wondering. The number of peo...
dull talented range
  11/17/19
I think it probably is, at least on vhf/uhf but the range is...
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
I don't know what any of this means but it sounds kinda cool...
dull talented range
  11/17/19
those are nice radios. you've got most of the functionality ...
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
It's a shame they never entirely caught on. It's pretty obvi...
dull talented range
  11/17/19
One sad aspect of those Rinos: back in the early stages of t...
dull talented range
  11/17/19
Also, for those that don't know what a Garmin Rino is: they ...
dull talented range
  11/17/19
there are a fair number of illicit users, but one of the pop...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
What a bunch of fags
dull talented range
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
Lol at these incel gestapos
Aggressive persian halford
  11/17/19
...
smoky charismatic field jap
  11/17/19
Incel gestapo great moniker / band name
awkward fragrant pit
  11/17/19
Increasingly common, particularly with truckers. They all pi...
smoky charismatic field jap
  11/17/19
Should I get into this hobby? Tell me about it.
Unholy amethyst queen of the night digit ratio
  11/17/19
the answer is, "probably." this video does a reas...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
...
Opaque kitty cat
  10/09/22
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
i bought an older copy of the ARRL's antenna guide from amaz...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
what bands are XO hams using?
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
i've been playing around with local MESH NETWORKS with a 2.4...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
what do people do / say on 80/40? 2 meter repeater chat is i...
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
in my area, i can hear up into alaska and northwestern canad...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
i have an SWR meter. i hope that's enough, more or less.
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
...
Thirsty histrionic set
  11/17/19
Things to get into: -ham -shrimp keeping
Jet-lagged lascivious dilemma milk
  11/17/19
...
Supple library
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
...
electric double fault corner
  11/17/19
nearly 100% overlap
dull talented range
  11/17/19
“Raises hand” extra class here. HTH
appetizing box office rigpig
  11/17/19
it's the per capita that matter i had friends who were into...
Curious walnut national security agency
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
I honestly can't wait until boomers begin to kick the bucket
dull talented range
  11/17/19
the ISPs may be manipulating/promoting ham in order to use h...
sticky church building
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
yes, I know...I have a fcc general RT license...but it is a ...
sticky church building
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
absolutely...there are even now ways to squeeze in far more ...
sticky church building
  11/17/19
Can we get cell accessories or hardware integration in my ph...
smoky charismatic field jap
  11/17/19
experimental only, afaik...but apparently some implementatio...
sticky church building
  11/17/19
The most prestigious ham radio discussion board in the world...
beta marketing idea resort
  11/17/19
...
flesh mexican brunch
  11/17/19
BaoFeng UV-82HP owner here! The over-boosted radios from Chi...
fighting unhinged theater
  11/17/19
UV-82's are great value radios but the HP is in no way worth...
Swashbuckling roommate theatre
  11/17/19
I opted for it because it came in a sweet ass urban camo col...
fighting unhinged theater
  11/17/19
Extra class here. Licensed since 1961. Mostly HF, but it's n...
mind-boggling coffee pot
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  11/17/19
Why isn't it as fun as it used to be What was it like befor...
Jet-lagged lascivious dilemma milk
  11/17/19
The magic feel of long distance communication is gone. Also,...
mind-boggling coffee pot
  11/17/19
...
Thirsty histrionic set
  11/17/19
CR. I consider it my Zombie Apocalypse skill.
appetizing box office rigpig
  11/17/19
my dad is a yuge ham radio nut. dude has rooms full of compo...
laughsome rusted hell corn cake
  11/17/19
one of the nice features of ham radio is that you can use re...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/17/19
...
Motley school
  03/01/20
180
Cocky Whorehouse
  11/17/19
we could have a bort packet radio bbs
Cocky Whorehouse
  11/17/19
What cool shit can I do with my BAOFENG? Aside from initiall...
fighting unhinged theater
  11/19/19
we haven't updated this in a while, so here it is: ANNUAL...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  10/09/22
TY
Trip house
  10/09/22
I'm part of that small 2017 class. Need to do more with it. ...
Bespoke native
  10/09/22
'17 here, too. i wasn't very active until i started using ft...
Thirsty histrionic set
  10/11/22
FT8 is fascinating from a technical point of view but I'm st...
Bespoke native
  10/11/22
i've logged onto a local repeater and have listened to some ...
fighting unhinged theater
  10/09/22
Local 40m is basically XO with the mean age shifted +20 year...
Bespoke native
  10/09/22
2023 update - a big DIP. we are seeing the convergence of s...
Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma
  11/20/23
Great thread. I am getting started in this 👍
titillating goyim
  01/17/24
so, it wasn't the greatest year for ham radio licensure, but...
,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.
  01/07/25


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:24 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

kind of interesting how the numbers were in decline before ITE, and then the explosion of preppers boosted them back up, in a trend that continues today:

ANNUAL CHANGE IN TOTAL LICENSE COUNT:

2019: +7,550‬

2018: +8,603

2017: +4,697‬

2016: +7,629‬

2015: +7,066‬

2014: +9,831‬

2013: +7,960‬

2012: +8,197‬

2011: +5,667‬

2010: +12,719‬

2009: +19,311‬

2008: +8,320‬

2007: -314

2006: -4,677‬

2005: -8,801‬

2004: -13,530‬

2003: -1,763‬

2002: +1,687‬

2001: +748‬

2000: +5,884‬

1999: +3,885‬

1998: -3,976‬

1997: -1,664‬

Starting point: (June 1, 1997) 678,473

Endpoint (January 1, 2020): 763,502

HOWEVER, the US population has increased from 267 million in mid-1997 to slightly over 330 million today, meaning that there has been some slippage in per capita terms:

PER CAPITA 1997: 1 license per 394 Americans

PER CAPITA Jan. 2020: 1 license per 432.5 Americans

BUT, the slippage has been reduced relative to what it would have been without the ITE bump. without that bump, the numbers would be close to 1 out 500.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130171)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:25 AM
Author: electric double fault corner

recommended ham radio?

is the entry level license good enough or are getting the two upgraded versions optimal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130174)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:31 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

technician class (the first level) is pretty much garbage, since you have very little (legal) access to the high-frequency bands. HF bands are what you use for long-distance, non-line-of-sight communications. the minimum to aim for is the general license. amateur extra is nice for a bit of extra band-space, but is nowhere near the enormous leap from technician to general.

"which radio" is an absolutely enormous question and really depends on what you want to do with it, what you want it to be ABLE to do, and how much money you have. a cheap line-of-sight chinese handheld radio is $25-$30 and will work fine for what it does. a good modern HF-capable radio like the ICOM 7300 will be closer to $1,000 new. but you will also need to set up an antenna for it, in order to hear or send much of anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130181)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:34 AM
Author: electric double fault corner

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130191)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:08 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130242)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:17 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

10m has gotten WRECKED by low sunspot activity in recent years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130251)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:24 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130264)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:41 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130291)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 3:15 PM
Author: appetizing box office rigpig

I recommend getting involved in your local ham club, field days and swap meets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131619)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:32 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130185)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:34 AM
Author: electric double fault corner

good point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130192)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:25 AM
Author: 180 dark indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130175)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:30 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre

whats ur callsign?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130180)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:33 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

a callsign literally OUTS you because it's available online in the FCC database.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130187)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:34 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre

what are your thoughts on ham radio forum guys who pressure you to use your callsign as your moniker? really annoying imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130190)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:35 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

boomers tend to wrap up their identity in this stuff a lot more than is necessary or desirable. that's something i notice a lot. being a ham doesn't mean that your BEING has to be 'a ham.'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130193)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:37 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre

its crazy when i try to poast on the QRZ forum (even though I'm tech licensed) and people will be like "oh shit look at this guy poasting for two years now but doesn't have a call sign!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130196)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:41 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

i think they had some kind of spat with facebook over being able to use callsigns as their "names," too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130204)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:42 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130207)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:32 AM
Author: dull talented range

How common are ham scofflaws?

I've got some GMRS walkie talkies I've never bothered getting a license for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130184)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:33 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre

GMRS isn't ham

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130186)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:36 AM
Author: dull talented range

I know GMRS isn't ham, I'm just wondering. The number of people that use GMRS without a license has got to be huge, and I'm just wondering if it's a similar situation with ham

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130195)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:40 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre

I think it probably is, at least on vhf/uhf but the range is so short unless you're hitting repeaters that no one is likely to care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130201)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:53 AM
Author: dull talented range

I don't know what any of this means but it sounds kinda cool

I've got some Garmin Rinos and I think they're cool as shit. I've got a pair of them and I've used them for hunting. It's just so damn amazing to go hunting with someone else and know precisely where they are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130225)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:55 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre

those are nice radios. you've got most of the functionality of short-range ham license gear with those.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130230)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:14 AM
Author: dull talented range

It's a shame they never entirely caught on. It's pretty obvious why they never did though, most of them are pretty expensive.

I got a pair of some really basic ones (the 110s) ages ago for about $150 each. That was a pretty fair price, but they discontinued the cheap models a long time ago. I took a look just now and Garmin has just one current Rino model and they go for $550 each. Crazy.

The quality was kind of shit (the screen on one of mine goes in and out) and they had a terrible UI.

But the functionality was amazing. My dad and I would go out hunting on national forest land. We often wouldn't have these places all that scoped out. A lot of it was kinda spur of the moment and we'd just sort of vaguely wander off in different directions from one another. The Rinos were amazing because they would let us keep a distance from one another in territory we'd never been to before.

You can kinda do the same thing these days with cheap cell phone apps *if* you're in cell phone coverage. That's a pretty big qualifier though; a lot of time you don't have coverage when you're in the woods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130246)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:24 AM
Author: dull talented range

One sad aspect of those Rinos: back in the early stages of the Iraq war, families of those serving were buying Rinos to send overseas. Our troops were so under-equipped that their situation could be vastly improved with a bunch of cheap off-the-shelf radios.

They literally couldn't keep track of where their fellow units were, so they spent their own money on tech that would enable them to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130266)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:56 AM
Author: dull talented range

Also, for those that don't know what a Garmin Rino is: they are combination walkie-talkie / GPS devices. You can send your exact GPS coordinates to other Rino users as long as you're within walkie-talkie (FRS/GMRS) range

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130308)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:33 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

there are a fair number of illicit users, but one of the popular activities in ham radio is something called "foxhunting," ie, using directional antennas and other gear to locate illegal transmissions and reporting them to the FCC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130189)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:37 AM
Author: dull talented range

What a bunch of fags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130197)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:17 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130249)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 11:42 AM
Author: Aggressive persian halford

Lol at these incel gestapos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131032)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 11:43 AM
Author: smoky charismatic field jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131033)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 10:28 PM
Author: awkward fragrant pit

Incel gestapo great moniker / band name

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39132827)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 11:34 AM
Author: smoky charismatic field jap

Increasingly common, particularly with truckers. They all pirate ham and don't both with cb anymore.

Those little Chinese radios are amazing for all sorts of shady shit too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130995)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:38 AM
Author: Unholy amethyst queen of the night digit ratio

Should I get into this hobby? Tell me about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130199)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 1:43 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

the answer is, "probably." this video does a reasonable summary of some basics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtexMEqAuZ0

one thing to note is that the question pools for the tests are public information published online. if you wanted to just memorize the answers and zip ahead into a license, that can be done, though it would leave a lot of gaps in terms of your ability to operate or properly set up actual physical ham equipment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130210)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 9th, 2022 8:45 PM
Author: Opaque kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#45306621)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:20 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130256)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:24 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

i bought an older copy of the ARRL's antenna guide from amazon for a few dollars a while ago. it's a very good resource.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130263)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:04 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre

what bands are XO hams using?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130239)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:07 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

i've been playing around with local MESH NETWORKS with a 2.4ghz router running some freeware. it's interesting technology, but i don't understand much of it yet; it's mostly plug-and-play for me. otherwise, for general listening/monitoring, usually 80/40.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130241)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:23 AM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre

what do people do / say on 80/40? 2 meter repeater chat is insufferable in my area. is there something more interesting going on on HF?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130261)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:29 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

in my area, i can hear up into alaska and northwestern canada on those bands, and so i'll hear swatches of conversation from guys talking about flying out to the cabin or about how the storm is looking as it approaches the inlet, and that sort of thing. for local stuff, the 6 and the 2 seem pretty active. i'm more of a listener than a CQ'er, unless i have something specific to add.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130277)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:59 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130316)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 3:12 AM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

i have an SWR meter. i hope that's enough, more or less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130327)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:44 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130294)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:45 PM
Author: Thirsty histrionic set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131524)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:25 AM
Author: Jet-lagged lascivious dilemma milk

Things to get into:

-ham

-shrimp keeping

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130268)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:33 AM
Author: Supple library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130280)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:49 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130303)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 12:11 PM
Author: electric double fault corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131130)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:49 AM
Author: dull talented range

nearly 100% overlap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130304)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 3:20 PM
Author: appetizing box office rigpig

“Raises hand” extra class here. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131636)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:59 AM
Author: Curious walnut national security agency

it's the per capita that matter

i had friends who were into this in high school. back then, it was a quirky geek world very much like the early chat rooms.

how is it now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130315)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 3:02 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130318)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 3:06 AM
Author: dull talented range

I honestly can't wait until boomers begin to kick the bucket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130323)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 4:57 AM
Author: sticky church building

the ISPs may be manipulating/promoting ham in order to use ham to forestall new frequencies that could be used to circumvent the ISP monopoly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130430)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 5:00 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130437)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 5:09 AM
Author: sticky church building

yes, I know...I have a fcc general RT license...but it is a POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE range of frequencies...I figured that the ISPs were getting their hands into the propaganda game on frequencies when I saw that every time municipal broadband via wifi/wireless/radio freqs came up, these news stories about wireless allergies/sicknesses starting popping up...that's when i knew that the ISPs were afraid of future tech using wireless/radio freqs to circumvent the ISPs inside the big cities using ad hoc or municipal infrastructure...and now we are starting to see propaganda circulating regarding Ham freqs...we live in a sea of propaganda...it is perhaps the major characteristic of modern societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130446)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 5:21 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130457)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 5:24 AM
Author: sticky church building

absolutely...there are even now ways to squeeze in far more communications capacity into a freq band, and soon more such tech will arrive...that means that ham freqs could be doubled up, which could be used for urban internet networks...that would bypass the ISPs...so they started pushed a lot of propaganda a few years ago about how noise from such doubling up tech would impair ham communications...propaganda

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130458)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 11:32 AM
Author: smoky charismatic field jap

Can we get cell accessories or hardware integration in my phone so I can bounce between services?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39130986)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 12:41 PM
Author: sticky church building

experimental only, afaik...but apparently some implementation of that new tech was forestalled by complaints that ham radio would see interference...were the ISPs behind all that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131208)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 12:06 PM
Author: beta marketing idea resort

The most prestigious ham radio discussion board in the world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131116)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 9:49 PM
Author: flesh mexican brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39132696)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 12:18 PM
Author: fighting unhinged theater

BaoFeng UV-82HP owner here! The over-boosted radios from China are so cheap and useful, no reason for everyone not to have one handy in the event of a serious event.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131156)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 12:26 PM
Author: Swashbuckling roommate theatre

UV-82's are great value radios but the HP is in no way worth more than double the price the 5w version when that extra 2 watts achieves nothing other than draining the battery faster.

It's convenient that you can tx on MURS, GMRS, marine, and commercial frequencies though out of the box whereas most name brand amateur radios lock out those frequencies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131178)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 12:47 PM
Author: fighting unhinged theater

I opted for it because it came in a sweet ass urban camo color for $50.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131228)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:09 PM
Author: mind-boggling coffee pot

Extra class here. Licensed since 1961. Mostly HF, but it's not as much fun as it used to be. Have a lot of vintage gear (mostly Collins) up to newer SDR stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131437)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:19 PM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131463)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 3:18 PM
Author: Jet-lagged lascivious dilemma milk

Why isn't it as fun as it used to be

What was it like before vs now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131628)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 3:26 PM
Author: mind-boggling coffee pot

The magic feel of long distance communication is gone. Also, the demographic is pretty heavy with grouchy old farts. Many of my ham radio friends are dead or dying. Guess it’s a room in the mandala thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131655)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 2:49 PM
Author: Thirsty histrionic set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131537)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 3:14 PM
Author: appetizing box office rigpig

CR. I consider it my Zombie Apocalypse skill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131615)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 4:10 PM
Author: laughsome rusted hell corn cake

my dad is a yuge ham radio nut. dude has rooms full of components, including rare stuff like soviet radios. since he has a phd in electrical engineering, he also builds his own shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131768)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 5:08 PM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

one of the nice features of ham radio is that you can use really old equipment indefinitely, provided that you can keep it working. you only run into trouble when the devices are so old that they violate modern electrical codes, like pre-vacuum tube spark gap transmitters with leyden jars and truly antiquarian designs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39131891)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 1st, 2020 10:05 AM
Author: Motley school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39676365)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 9:52 PM
Author: Cocky Whorehouse

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39132704)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2019 9:54 PM
Author: Cocky Whorehouse

we could have a bort packet radio bbs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39132717)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 19th, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: fighting unhinged theater

What cool shit can I do with my BAOFENG? Aside from initially programming it, it's just set aside for emergencies. Is there any potential usefulness for me to consider? Can I radio ahead to the truckstop to schedule with Peterman, not sure how to add the CB channels.

Also, why do people make a big deal on licensing, it's really hard for me to imagine the FCC is going to "go after" someone with a $40 handheld (and I worked at the FCC).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#39141127)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 9th, 2022 8:39 PM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

we haven't updated this in a while, so here it is:

ANNUAL CHANGE IN TOTAL LICENSE COUNT:

2020: +8,810

2021: +7,242

2022 (through October 4): -7,833

so, what happened here? it's actually quite straightforward - the flu era led to a surge in preppers and others who wanted to get their radio licences, leading to the booms in 2020 and 2021. this leveled off after 2021, and it also probably 'brought forward' licensees who otherwise would have gotten licensed in 2022 or beyond.

there have been steep reductions in 'grandfathered' license classes ('novice' and 'advanced') for which licenses are no longer issued, meaning that the people who hold them tend to be older. they are dying off. the boom in preppers offset the natural decline for a couple years, but that has reversed in 2022.

Starting point: (June 1, 1997) 678,473

Endpoint (October 4, 2022): 771,721

HOWEVER, the US population has increased from 267 million in mid-1997 to slightly over 333 million today, meaning that there has been some slippage in per capita terms:

PER CAPITA 1997: 1 license per 394 Americans

PER CAPITA Oct. 4, 2022: 1 license per 431.7 Americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#45306579)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 9th, 2022 8:52 PM
Author: Trip house

TY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#45306667)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 9th, 2022 8:42 PM
Author: Bespoke native

I'm part of that small 2017 class. Need to do more with it. Need to retrofit vintage rig for SSTV and digital modes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#45306607)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 11th, 2022 1:21 AM
Author: Thirsty histrionic set

'17 here, too. i wasn't very active until i started using ft8 a few months ago. https://i.ibb.co/MN5L98L/lb.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#45313013)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 11th, 2022 7:38 AM
Author: Bespoke native

FT8 is fascinating from a technical point of view but I'm still a little unsure if the "spirit" is maintained in automated QSOs. Would rather slow-speed chat.

Congrats on the Japan DX tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#45313403)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 9th, 2022 8:47 PM
Author: fighting unhinged theater

i've logged onto a local repeater and have listened to some local shit, but other than that, not sure the utility of my baofeng aside from it being essential prep gear.

are there an xo type ham channels?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#45306638)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 9th, 2022 8:48 PM
Author: Bespoke native

Local 40m is basically XO with the mean age shifted +20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#45306646)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 20th, 2023 6:33 PM
Author: Marvelous Office Friendly Grandma

2023 update - a big DIP. we are seeing the convergence of several trends: people who got licensed during the late-00's/early-10's surge not renewing their licenses, and gradually dropping off the rolls (the FCC does not delist expired licensees immediately; they are delisted in periodic chunks via database updates), old people dying, younger americans no longer taking up the hobby at the same rates, and (as before), the grandfathered license classes shrinking.

we see the largest decline in the entry-level 'technician' class, meaning that people who took the easiest test are tending to drop out over time. the 'extra' class is retaining a higher percentage of licensees.

let's tally up those numbers:

Starting point: (June 1, 1997) 678,473

Last year: (October 4, 2022) 771,721

Endpoint: (November 20, 2023) 756,466

YoY decline: -15,255

in raw numbers, this is the steepest decline thus far, and the sharpest in per capita terms since 2004.

PER CAPITA 1997: 1 license per 394 Americans

PER CAPITA Nov. 20, 2023: 1 license per 443.8 Americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#47079870)



Reply Favorite

Date: January 17th, 2024 5:10 AM
Author: titillating goyim

Great thread. I am getting started in this 👍

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#47297459)



Reply Favorite

Date: January 7th, 2025 5:58 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


so, it wasn't the greatest year for ham radio licensure, but i think the losses have been STAUNCHED for now. what we initially saw was a steeper dropoff followed by a bottoming-out, and then a slight increase in the past few months. the increase is much smaller than the decline, but the line is no longer crashing down.

as before, the twin penalties of demographics (ham operators skew older) and narrowing pipelines into the hobby are offset by ham radio as a growing cornerstone of people trying to adopt a prepper/rural lifestyle. whether they are LARPing or not, a license is a license.

Starting point: (June 1, 1997) 678,473

Last year: (November 20, 2023) 756,466

Endpoint: (January 7, 2025) 745,292

YoY decline: -11,174

this pares last year's decline by 4K, but of course, a decline in the rate of decline is some sort of derivative bullshit rather than what we want, which is a gain.

PER CAPITA 1997: 1 license per 394 Americans

PER CAPITA January 7, 2025: 1 license per 457.8 Americans

not great. could be worse. let's see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4383596&forum_id=2:#48526389)