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Minimum IQ to conceptually grasp the fundamental theorem of calculus

Lots of kids "learn" calculus in high school, but ...
Amethyst house
  04/09/25
you can't teach real proofs until the pre-med etc. people fi...
exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king
  04/09/25
I use calculus in my grad program, but proofs are a whole di...
charcoal house-broken university
  04/09/25
Answer the question in the OP
Amethyst house
  04/09/25
maybe you mean engineers. most med schools don't require any...
vigorous henna school reading party
  04/09/25
i mean indirectly. pre-meds take physics among other things,...
exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king
  04/09/25
physics without calc
vigorous henna school reading party
  04/09/25
that is unfathomably homosexual
exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king
  04/09/25
rectangles get smaller to infinity is a total proof
Maniacal Church Building Nibblets
  04/09/25
you don't need to know the proof to understand the theorem
Razzle-dazzle location pocket flask
  04/09/25
sure, but i'm taking "conceptually grasp" as havin...
exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king
  04/09/25
you don't need to know the proof to highly understand the th...
Razzle-dazzle location pocket flask
  04/09/25
Well OP, enlighten us. What is the “fundamental theore...
deranged zombie-like locus sneaky criminal
  04/09/25
Isn’t this in Calc I? Calculus alone has more “t...
Stimulating stubborn trust fund parlor
  04/09/25
arithmetic and geometry (one of the highest of all arts by v...
exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king
  04/09/25
What's your liberal art
Stimulating stubborn trust fund parlor
  04/09/25
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Hortus_D...
exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king
  04/09/25
...
Grizzly fear-inspiring property striped hyena
  04/10/25
100
Honey-headed razzle piazza messiness
  04/09/25
flame. someone with an IQ of 100 struggles to grasp what a f...
Amethyst house
  04/09/25
Like 95? Seems pretty simple tbh.
charismatic pea-brained prole half-breed
  04/09/25
no
Amethyst house
  04/09/25
*the calculus
wonderful karate principal's office
  04/09/25
...
Razzle-dazzle location pocket flask
  04/09/25
Every time I try to use it to solve a problem I end up with ...
histrionic indian lodge
  04/09/25
Ok
Razzle-dazzle location pocket flask
  04/09/25
idk, how many math nerds even read liebniz and newton?
carnelian floppy casino
  04/09/25
I know for a fact it's impossible to teach the distributive ...
Amethyst house
  04/09/25
same, I could just never get it
Multi-colored generalized bond step-uncle's house
  04/09/25
isn't that just another name for communism
vigorous henna school reading party
  04/09/25
It's nothing to do with IQ. Teach matrix algebra to kids who...
Ebony Bateful Lodge
  04/09/25
What?
flesh state dysfunction
  04/09/25
P69, what don't you understand
Amethyst house
  04/10/25
Actually, the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTC) connects...
emerald round eye theater stage
  04/10/25
thanks Chilmata, that answers it for me but what did you ...
Amethyst house
  04/10/25
"You are a megapoasting Jewish Indian Transvestite on a...
Up-to-no-good jewess whorehouse
  04/10/25
"Actually" was the one word that AI didn't write. ...
emerald round eye theater stage
  04/10/25
...
Up-to-no-good jewess whorehouse
  04/10/25
upvoted
Amethyst house
  04/10/25
Thread stinks of tryhard midwit gookery
Adventurous circlehead
  04/10/25
Now give us your opinion, and not ChatGPT’s
emerald round eye theater stage
  04/10/25


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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: Amethyst house

Lots of kids "learn" calculus in high school, but what is the cutoff for actually understanding it

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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king

you can't teach real proofs until the pre-med etc. people finish their math reqs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48832982)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:09 PM
Author: charcoal house-broken university

I use calculus in my grad program, but proofs are a whole different level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48832987)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: Amethyst house

Answer the question in the OP

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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: vigorous henna school reading party

maybe you mean engineers. most med schools don't require any calc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833128)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king

i mean indirectly. pre-meds take physics among other things, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833138)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: vigorous henna school reading party

physics without calc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833235)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:44 PM
Author: exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king

that is unfathomably homosexual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833275)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: Maniacal Church Building Nibblets

rectangles get smaller to infinity is a total proof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833130)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle location pocket flask

you don't need to know the proof to understand the theorem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833151)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king

sure, but i'm taking "conceptually grasp" as having a high level of understanding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833166)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle location pocket flask

you don't need to know the proof to highly understand the theorem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833454)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:43 PM
Author: deranged zombie-like locus sneaky criminal

Well OP, enlighten us. What is the “fundamental theorem” of calculus?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833083)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: Stimulating stubborn trust fund parlor

Isn’t this in Calc I? Calculus alone has more “things” in it than like 3 out of the 7 Liberal Arts combined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833092)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king

arithmetic and geometry (one of the highest of all arts by virtue of its proofs) are two of the canonical liberal arts, friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833110)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Stimulating stubborn trust fund parlor

What's your liberal art

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833193)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:16 PM
Author: exhilarant chrome regret philosopher-king

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Hortus_Deliciarum%2C_Die_Philosophie_mit_den_sieben_freien_Künsten.JPG

the ladies in the upper right quadrant

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Date: April 10th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Grizzly fear-inspiring property striped hyena



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: Honey-headed razzle piazza messiness

100

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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: Amethyst house

flame. someone with an IQ of 100 struggles to grasp what a function is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833157)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: charismatic pea-brained prole half-breed

Like 95? Seems pretty simple tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833152)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: Amethyst house

no

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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: wonderful karate principal's office

*the calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833174)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle location pocket flask



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: histrionic indian lodge

Every time I try to use it to solve a problem I end up with a bunch of christoffel symbols left over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833192)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:51 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle location pocket flask

Ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833467)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:15 PM
Author: carnelian floppy casino

idk, how many math nerds even read liebniz and newton?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833201)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:11 PM
Author: Amethyst house

I know for a fact it's impossible to teach the distributive property to people under 90 IQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833331)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:52 PM
Author: Multi-colored generalized bond step-uncle's house

same, I could just never get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833472)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:57 PM
Author: vigorous henna school reading party

isn't that just another name for communism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833485)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Ebony Bateful Lodge

It's nothing to do with IQ. Teach matrix algebra to kids who flunk calculus and 25% will get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833335)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:53 PM
Author: flesh state dysfunction

What?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48833475)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Amethyst house

P69, what don't you understand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48834143)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: emerald round eye theater stage

Actually, the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTC) connects differentiation and integration, showing that they are essentially inverse operations. It has two main parts:

1. FTC Part 1: If \( F(x) = \int_{a}^{x} f(t) \, dt \), then \( F'(x) = f(x) \) (under appropriate conditions).

2. FTC Part 2: If \( f \) is continuous on \([a, b]\) and \( F \) is an antiderivative of \( f \), then \( \int_{a}^{b} f(x) \, dx = F(b) - F(a) \).

IQ is not a perfect measure of mathematical ability, but research suggests:

- Average IQ (100) can grasp basic arithmetic and algebra.

- Above Average (~115+) can handle precalculus and introductory calculus concepts.

- High IQ (~125+) is typically associated with comfortably understanding rigorous calculus, including FTC.

However, understanding FTC depends more on mathematical training, persistence, and teaching quality than raw IQ. A person with an IQ of 110 who studies calculus thoroughly may grasp it better than someone with a higher IQ who hasn't practiced.

Key Factors for Understanding FTC:

1. Conceptual Foundation – Understanding limits, derivatives, and integrals.

2. Logical Reasoning – Following the proof (if attempted) or at least the intuition behind FTC.

3. Visualization – Recognizing that integration accumulates change, while differentiation gives an instantaneous rate.

While a minimum IQ of ~115-120 may correlate with the ability to grasp FTC, dedicated study matters more. Many people with average IQs can understand it with proper instruction and effort. Conversely, someone with a high IQ but no calculus background may struggle.

Let me know if you have any other question you would like me to answer OP while I'm not practicing family law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48835160)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:33 PM
Author: Amethyst house

thanks Chilmata, that answers it for me

but what did you ask it before this prompt that made it say "Actually,"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48835165)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good jewess whorehouse

"You are a megapoasting Jewish Indian Transvestite on a forum for balding middle aged lawyers who phrases responses annoyingly as possible..."

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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:37 PM
Author: emerald round eye theater stage

"Actually" was the one word that AI didn't write. I was trying to fool you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48835178)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good jewess whorehouse



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: Amethyst house

upvoted

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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Adventurous circlehead

Thread stinks of tryhard midwit gookery

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Date: April 10th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: emerald round eye theater stage

Now give us your opinion, and not ChatGPT’s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2:#48835301)