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Date: September 4th, 2010 8:31 AM Author: very tactful coffee pot dingle berry Does anyone know anything about the usefulness of an MS in computer science? Do people get good jobs coming out of these things? Pay? Are they possible to do part-time?
I'm thinking of getting a MS, either as a way to get out of law totally or as a way to shift into patent stuff. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:17 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy "or as a way to shift into patent stuff"...
not so much |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:19 PM Author: free-loading incel what's your undergrad major? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16075999) |
Date: September 18th, 2010 3:08 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams The law degree may scare employers until you prove you enjoy programming. Release open source applications on the side to prove you can code and enjoy doing it. Otherwise you may have trouble proving you're not a risk.
If you are bailing mid law school ignore this, then people will just write you off as not interested in practicing law (easy when you consider the personality of most engineers).
It pays pretty well, particularly if you live in a cheap area. I was 4/4 for programming interviews recently and 3/4 for offers. The pay is more than shitlaw but less than top law. It's almost exactly in the valley of the bimodal lawyer salary distribution.
I have a BS in comp sci but MS in related field if that helps ya out.
There are tons of comp sci grads who can't code at all. If you can and don't have crushing debt you'll be fine. You need nerd credentials too and releasing applications is a huge way to prove you enjoy programming. It's useful to know how to talk to engineers and businessmen. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:10 PM Author: Aquamarine Bateful Theater if you live near silicon valley there's a lot of jobs in the 80K-100K starting range w/ a MS CS at places like Google, Cisco, Facebook, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16075945) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:16 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams these are hard jobs to get without top credentials. if you are not top class as a student you have to pay your dues (afterward though taking these jobs is not a problem).
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:17 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy They don't recruit at places like podunk state.
They get top undergrads...not shit MS students. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:28 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams there are actually 2 ways into places like google. be a top scholar or have the credentials and experience with people who can vouch for you.
i know someone who works there from a state school without stellar grades. he paid his dues in smaller jobs for a couple years...he knows his shit and they saw that in the interview and his record. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:30 PM Author: free-loading incel they are not nearly as exclusive as i-banks or whatever, because even Google has to hire people to debug and maintain old codes, and no "brilliant" CS people wants to do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076061) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:30 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy I did engineering in undergrad, Mister.
I know where these places recruit. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:30 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook where a virgin in college? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076065) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:31 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy i just even know what parlance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076069) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:32 PM Author: Carnelian whorehouse epic failure of a post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076074) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:34 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook u mad virgin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076086) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:36 PM Author: Carnelian whorehouse Sorry you can't write anything coherent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076096) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:37 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy no shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076100) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:37 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook I'm sorry you can't get any pussy
you mad azn? |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:38 PM Author: Carnelian whorehouse I'm surprised...you selected words that make sense in context and put them in the right order. This is an impressive improvement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076109) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:39 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy At least he speaks ARE country language (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076113) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:33 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams i have 3 science degrees, one of which is comp sci and one of which is advanced. my friend works at google. i am a programmer and so are most of my friends.
but you did engineering once, right? |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:36 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy "but you did engineering once, right?"
My UG friends work at MS, facebook, Intel, Boeing, Google, etc.
Am I more qualified to make an assessment than you are now? |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:36 PM Author: Carnelian whorehouse lol, he's obviously more qualified (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076098) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:40 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook u mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076121) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams i work at a company that could fit in that list. i have other friends who work there too.
there are two ways in these companies. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook could implies that it doesn't u mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076133) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy I have done work for several of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076134) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook your either a turdskin or an azn that lacked the necessary social graces or personality to go into medicine or finance......you mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076144) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:45 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy I have an MBA from HBS.
Try again.
Probably whiter than you are. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:47 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook I have Nordic ancestors...you mad Irish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076175) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:48 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy You'll age well...I'm sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076182) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076192) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:50 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy that was sarcasm.
you'll look like a handbag by 30.
HTH |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:52 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook Irish are the niggers of the white race how does this make you feel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076212) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:52 PM Author: Carnelian whorehouse You're obviously a chink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076217) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:53 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy Why would you think I'm Irish? Try again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076224) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:54 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook cause it's obvious your from one of the lesser white races your either slavic or Irish and slavs are too stupid to be on this board (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076231) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:55 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy I'm from the race that tried to wipe out all the lesser ones.
I know about Hitler, sir.
You're not good enough for him. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:00 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook I have both Sioux and Nordic blood in me both alpha races you mad Irish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076284) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:01 PM Author: Carnelian whorehouse Wrong, you're a chink. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076293) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:04 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy He obviously doesn't know much about his Sioux ancestry.
He's fucking Asian. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:03 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy Sioux....LO F'ING L.
Just move on. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:46 PM Author: Swollen state LOL @ the thought of needing any social grace or personality to go into medicine. med schools have some of the biggest aspies outside of computer science departments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076172) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:48 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook Med Schools have interviews to weed out the smart aspies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076185) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: Carnelian whorehouse That's not what those interviews are for. Walk around a med school for a while...it's full of smart aspies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076193) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy So do MBA programs...they don't look for compassion.
Don't expect that from me, either. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076152) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy What? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076155) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:47 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams i have seen people get in these companies from a state school. both directly and with low gpa made up for with successful work experience. if you haven't then maybe you don't hang out with state school people.
like they would refuse to hire someone from state school with published papers/top of their class.
google recruits at web developer conferences. anyone who shows up and knows what they're doing can end up working there. i know people who took this route. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy WTF? Some of the best science/engineering schools ARE state schools.
Directional state U isn't exactly Berkeley.
I think you misunderstood my bitchy comment. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:55 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams eh...my uncle went high up GE engineering from podunk state. real high up. my state school isn't the best but it's no slouch and probably closer to what you mentioned.
i think we agree more than we think.
regardless, an excellent coder with no degree will get hired at these places. john carmack dropped out of college and he'd get hired as a senior at Microsoft in a second.
programming is a weird field where you can just write the program to prove you know how. carmack and a few others take this route. i think i do mostly agree with you if you'll note this small exception. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:56 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook John Carmack also created Doom...you mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076252) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:56 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams that was my point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076261) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:57 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy The best way to kill a programmer's career is to teach him to think critically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076266) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:00 PM Author: free-loading incel yfwgi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076285) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:01 PM Author: Carnelian whorehouse That's a weird response to posts that are obviously serious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076289) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:31 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy No shit...these people need to fucking relax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076584) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:29 PM Author: Know-it-all misanthropic laser beams many math majors code. i guarantee they would blow away your critical thinking skills. i can't even take you seriously. half of programming is logical structure. if you hadn't posted this i may have believed you were a reasonable person.
i was trying to be nice but i can cut that bullshit. face it, your portfolio is everything in coding. you're a fucking moron if you don't accept that. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:59 PM Author: free-loading incel "programming is a weird field where you can just write the program to prove you know how. carmack and a few others take this route. i think i do mostly agree with you if you'll note this small exception."
Exactly. If your portfolio/past work is SHIT, no prestigious degree can save you, and vice versa. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:21 PM Author: Impressive zippy turdskin lol you don't just get a job at Google (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076015) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:37 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook You mad azn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076106) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:43 PM Author: Impressive zippy turdskin at the horrible naivete of some poasters? no i just lol cause I don't know shit either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076141) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: Obsidian University Earnings top out in the very low 6 figures. No good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076136) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: Cobalt theatre travel guidebook you mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076149) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:47 PM Author: Obsidian University Mad at dudes who will never sniff $250k in their life? No
I wish tem well, however. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:45 PM Author: Impressive zippy turdskin all CS guys want is the latest gadget, enough to climb mountains/hike, and a boat to sleep on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076164) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:48 PM Author: free-loading incel wrong, you can break 200k easily doing traditional CS work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076188) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:50 PM Author: Obsidian University Yea, in extra high cost of living areas by like 42.
No good. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:57 PM Author: free-loading incel What are you comparing it to? 200k+ non-management salary compares well to most industries.
And the industries that beat it, like finance, also hires CS people... and the difference is that finance people are overpaid, while CS people are underpaid for how much value they create. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:51 PM Author: Swollen state a good # of the smart and hard working ones build their own startups and can end up pwning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076205) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:58 PM Author: Obsidian University I'm not referring to the winners, only the losers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076278) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:05 PM Author: free-loading incel most of you are so fucking stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076313) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:05 PM Author: Abusive useless puppy We all are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076319) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:05 PM Author: Carnelian whorehouse If you don't like it here, go away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076320) |