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all-cause mortality tracker guy: a retraction?

hi it's me, all cause mortality tracker guy. i'm here to re...
internet-worthy cuckold brunch
  05/14/20
that's unfortunate brother - can you summarize the data
High-end jew new version
  05/14/20
i'll try. all ages nationwide all cause mortality delta t...
internet-worthy cuckold brunch
  05/14/20
Thanks. So the new data just has a lot more deaths for some ...
High-end jew new version
  05/14/20
dude, it's not CLOSE and the worst part? the data report...
internet-worthy cuckold brunch
  05/14/20
i literally feel sick to my stomach. i can't take the qua...
internet-worthy cuckold brunch
  05/14/20
:( lots of people feel the same way. i think it will ease...
spectacular tanning salon
  05/14/20
ty for the scholarship, brother i've come around to the v...
Impressive mother boistinker
  05/14/20
and that's the worst part, man... we SHOULD. i can't unders...
internet-worthy cuckold brunch
  05/14/20
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Big locale
  05/14/20
18-65 year old nationwide all cause mortality data to date: ...
Judgmental Set Rigor
  05/14/20
too bad. but it still isn't the end of the world. gotta move...
fear-inspiring scarlet reading party
  05/14/20


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Date: May 14th, 2020 11:13 AM
Author: internet-worthy cuckold brunch

hi it's me, all cause mortality tracker guy. i'm here to report a retraction in my earlier poasts because i think that's responsible to do so.

as i stated in my earlier posts, all of my data - ALL of it - came directly from CSV dumps of the CDC's all cause mortality data. the CDC gathers all-cause mortality information from all of the states and then aggregates data together to come up with national statistics and statistics broken down by age. i downloaded it from the flu-view site which breaks out data about flu deaths, pneumonia deaths, and all-cause deaths.

now, i was careful to use recent data-dumps. i understood that it probably took some time for information to be gathered, but i also relied on the fact that the CDC published a statistic which explicitly showed the completeness of each week's data. i ONLY included 2020 data which was certified to be either 99% complete or above, and only included historical data which was certified to be 95% complete or above when making averages.

that last point leaves me completely flummoxed where this problem came from, given that i was gathering data to which i was told was complete. and yet, the numbers have been SIGNIFICANTLY revised as of yesterday night.

and i'll eat crow - the newly revised numbers paint a COMPLETELY different picture than the one i'd been giving before. just take a look. here is the latest update...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRf4vLTyjks-agvS9qWW7q1GcBuTEJ0fD5azbqSNhcUs5RUU1kyVmg2MXOv2CnEtrDNFxWDjHe51bBz/pubhtml

side by side with the numbers gathered from sunday night:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSVX3M0yCQWOpGcVPPEGHMEJZ2sW_GqZrFIo2swUdl1ywLkmCzjl9rlq-FYklLMXhXJUfb3Pt9g2zAh/pubhtml

i legit don't get how this happened. i checked MONDAY to correct the bloomberg article and pulled new data for NYC from the CDC at that time. sometime between then and now, all the data changed on the CDC side.

but i meant what i said - i came in without bias and went where the numbers took me. so i guess i'm back on the side of believing that this is real. weird to say online but i'm crushed... using the old CDC numbers i had hope things were getting better. they are not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40207780)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 11:19 AM
Author: High-end jew new version

that's unfortunate brother - can you summarize the data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40207813)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 11:29 AM
Author: internet-worthy cuckold brunch

i'll try.

all ages nationwide all cause mortality delta to date:

- using new numbers: 40,114

- using old numbers: -3,575 (so this isn't CLOSE)

all ages nationwide "people to death" to date:

- expected: 341.48 people per death

- using new numbers: 333.75 people per death

- using old numbers: 349.13 people per death

>18 year old nationwide all cause mortality data to date:

- using new numbers: -2,471

- using old numbers: -3,575

18-65 year old nationwide all cause mortality data to date:

- using new numbers: 3,330

- using old numbers: -9,482

65+ year old nationwide all cause mortality data to date:

- using new numbers: 46,149 (!!!)

- using old numbers: 15,871 (which i already thought was HUGE)

NYC all ages data:

- new delta: 19,217 (HOLY FUCK)

- old delta: 13,347 (again, already thought it was bad)

- expected people per death: 426.64 people per death

- new PPD: 213.95

- old PPD: 251.96

MI all ages data:

- new delta: 3,767

- old delta: 2,213

- expected PPD: 298.72

- new PPD: 270.33

- old PPD: 282.16

CO data... strangely? is the same

...so is FL. wtf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40207879)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 12:06 PM
Author: High-end jew new version

Thanks. So the new data just has a lot more deaths for some unknown reason? Not good news.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40208025)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 12:30 PM
Author: internet-worthy cuckold brunch

dude, it's not CLOSE

and the worst part? the data reported to the NYT, that bloomberg used in that article i debunked? THEY ALL USED THE SAME DATA I DID.

what in the fucking hell is the CDC doing certifying their data as ">99.9% complete" when they add +17,000 deaths three weeks later?

like fuck maybe tracking all-cause mortality is really hard, and it takes about a month for any particular week's number to crystalize. fine. hard to believe but fine. JUST SAY THAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40208191)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 11:30 AM
Author: internet-worthy cuckold brunch

i literally feel sick to my stomach.

i can't take the quarantine much more. i felt hope it might be over soon. now i feel utterly hopeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40207882)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 12:00 PM
Author: spectacular tanning salon

:(

lots of people feel the same way. i think it will ease up soon. too many businesses/livelihoods are dying and we've gotten used to a steady level of death. as long as the death rate doesn't accelerate, we're reopening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40208009)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 12:08 PM
Author: Impressive mother boistinker

ty for the scholarship, brother

i've come around to the view that the IFR is interesting but not nearly as important as the skew toward olds and how policy-makers react to it

i suspect we'll start to see a lot of news articles soon about the outsized impact on nursing homes and how badly we fucked up on protecting olds there, which will hopefully redirect the resources into turning those homes into fortresses with intense lab-grade HVAC and other things that we would have installed if we actually took the threat seriously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40208036)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 12:28 PM
Author: internet-worthy cuckold brunch

and that's the worst part, man... we SHOULD. i can't understand why we let this happen - and CONTINUE to let this happen - to certain communities of people. i imagine FL had excess supplies sitting and waiting to be used as NYC burned down. where was the coordination? where was the observation "hey, maybe we should let people back into the fucking schools but create a national nursing home isolation protocol right fucking now?"

very hard to take.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40208175)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 12:19 PM
Author: Big locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40208116)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 12:27 PM
Author: Judgmental Set Rigor

18-65 year old nationwide all cause mortality data to date:

- using new numbers: 3,330

- using old numbers: -9,482

Yep we really need to lock down all 18-65 year olds now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40208167)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:48 PM
Author: fear-inspiring scarlet reading party

too bad. but it still isn't the end of the world. gotta move on sooner rather than later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534096&forum_id=2#40210244)