IS CONSCIOUSNESS FADING IN MODERN SOCIETY?
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Date: December 22nd, 2024 3:19 PM
Author: ,.,,...,,,,,........,,,,,,,,,,,,,
haven't read the whole thing yet, but I highly disagree with the idea that synthetic/inductive reasoning must be conscious. we ALWAYS subconsciously notice patterns and apply them to novel stimuli; that's how things like unconscious bias happen. our brains were built to generalize.
to be fair, iirc, I once wrote a paper taking issue with Kant's distinction between synthetic and analytic truths – arguing that there's no difference at all – particularly the idea of distinguishing between them on the basis of the process of reasoning. I remember my prof found one of my counterexamples very convincing, but I can't find the paper now. o__0 I think I showed how one of Kant's (or Quine's? or Chalmers'?) examples of inductive reasoning could be reduced to deductive reasoning.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5652911&forum_id=2#48475829) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2024 3:54 PM
Author: ,.,,...,,,,,........,,,,,,,,,,,,,
okey I should have read more before I poasted but I just found "The patterns that emerge are based on the strengths of associations and are not necessarily logical. They must therefore be evaluated consciously." so objectionable (on two levels) that I had to reply ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'll finish reading later
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5652911&forum_id=2#48475939) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2024 3:55 PM
Author: ,.,,...,,,,,........,,,,,,,,,,,,,
different thing and I definitely didn't, but the problem of induction is one of my fav examples to give people about what kind of (useless but super interesting) questions we study in analytic philosophy 👍🏻
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5652911&forum_id=2#48475945) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2024 7:10 PM
Author: ,.,,...,,,,,........,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ooh I actually found it! it might be garbo idk it was like 11 years ago and I'm stupid now so I can't tell
the poker example at the end of Page 3 is what my professor found convincing:
```Because Kant’s grammar is restricted to sentences of forms such as “All S are P” and “No S is Q” and his logic [is] restricted accordingly, conceptual analysis consists of the extremely trivial process alluded to thus far in this paper. (“Does the concept of S say anything about P?”)
However, if Kant’s propositions and/or logical axioms were afforded some additional complexity, conceptual analysis would become much more involved (and much more useful!). For example, suppose Kant allowed for disjunctions and conditionals in his grammar. [...] [T]he evaluation of claims may start requiring complicated decision trees. [...] Consider an analytic statement about poker hands, in which one must use the (rather uncomplicated) concepts of the types of poker hands to evaluate the truth of: “A full house or a three of a kind is included in a hand composed of two of the cards A, B, and C; one of D or E; and one of F or G, if the fifth card is H, or in the hand consisting of I, J, K, L, M”. Imagine working through that on a chalkboard: the demonstration of such a claim may look a lot like the demonstration of a mathematical claim--like an example of conceptual synthesis. [B]ut it is clearly an analytic one, concerned only with the definitions of different kinds of poker hands.```
here's the paper as a docx: https://jmp.sh/s/T89RP9zoy0tMri05C1wA
or PDF if your device can't open that: https://jmp.sh/s/saVFU3u5SDMs2Ts031s8
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great point about AI – I hadn't thought about that – ofc phil/mind is more relevant than ever, but you're totally right about epistemology becoming increasingly significant too
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5652911&forum_id=2#48476541) |
Date: December 22nd, 2024 4:09 PM Author: i should call her
No white people are just being blotted out by international jewery
This concept doesn't even exist in other races
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5652911&forum_id=2#48475977)
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Date: December 22nd, 2024 5:14 PM Author: the place where there is no darkness
ALL THAT I AM IS FADING
THE MEMORY OF A GODS EXISTENCE BORN FROM THE CHAOS OF CREATION
IT IS VANISHING
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5652911&forum_id=2#48476218) |
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