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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM Author: lake internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515456) |
Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: lake internal respiration 18000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515486) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM Author: aromatic boiling water The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515518) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM Author: aromatic boiling water The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515523) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: aromatic boiling water Guns are muktzah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515647) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM Author: lake internal respiration I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515667) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:
In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.
https://outorah.org/p/21842/ |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM Author: aromatic boiling water Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515928) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM Author: glittery bawdyhouse state where you got semicha from before i engage you further (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515958) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: aromatic boiling water Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: lake internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516693) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516697) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: Light Box Office how do they get home? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515699) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse they still live in walking distance.
they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.
people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM Author: Light Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516177) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: sable home voyeur presumably you couldnt fire the gun though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515525) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: aphrodisiac gas station messiness Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515697) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM Author: Splenetic razzmatazz location haunted graveyard How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515735) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: lake internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516689) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Beta Mind-boggling Theater Stage Prole i love scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515767) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: Violet vigorous pisswyrm genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516135) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM Author: glittery bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516412) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM Author: Beta Mind-boggling Theater Stage Prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516560) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: lake internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516683) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: lake internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516681) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM Author: aromatic boiling water There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: Fishy crusty range is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515738) |