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FATAL FLAW in THE THIRD MAN - not enough Orson Welles

the "unedited cut" is 104 minutes long, with maybe...
fragrant home
  08/04/14
LOL
Aquamarine blathering theater stage
  08/04/14
he's just an unfiltered villain who sells adulterated antiob...
fragrant home
  08/04/14
Moby Dick was a metaphor. The third man is also a metapho...
Aquamarine blathering theater stage
  08/04/14
that requires careful narration in order to cause us to symp...
fragrant home
  08/04/14
i think it works bc you don't need to sell corruption to the...
white thriller area
  08/03/24
No. The mystery and healthful vagueness are essential. Chara...
Mentally impaired bearded cuck dilemma
  08/03/24
cr. besides, a few things come into play here 1. audience...
white thriller area
  08/03/24
Excellent post.
Mentally impaired bearded cuck dilemma
  08/03/24
The fatal flaw is the dreadful zither music
Crystalline sandwich therapy
  08/03/24
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Gaped Affirmative Action Corn Cake
  08/19/24
one of the worst xo posts of all time. Wow.
Sooty confused quadroon goyim
  08/19/24


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Date: August 4th, 2014 8:05 PM
Author: fragrant home

the "unedited cut" is 104 minutes long, with maybe three minutes of orson welles talking and explaining himself. he does well in that brief time, but it's not nearly enough - we still have no real idea why harry lime did the shit he did, or how he evolved to that point.

that film should have been around 140 minutes long with lots more harry lime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#26061569)



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Date: August 4th, 2014 8:06 PM
Author: Aquamarine blathering theater stage

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#26061576)



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Date: August 4th, 2014 8:08 PM
Author: fragrant home

he's just an unfiltered villain who sells adulterated antiobiotics. that's really fucked-up, but how do we get from here to there? we need more orson welles to complete the narrative arc.

imagine if moby dick had ahab jump directly from shore leave to screaming about the whale. "WTF?" you would think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#26061589)



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Date: August 4th, 2014 8:11 PM
Author: Aquamarine blathering theater stage

Moby Dick was a metaphor.

The third man is also a metaphor for literally our inability to understand man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#26061622)



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Date: August 4th, 2014 8:14 PM
Author: fragrant home

that requires careful narration in order to cause us to sympathize WITH the villain before disillusioning us. as it is, lime just pops up, admits on the ferris wheel to killing kids, then get capped in the sewer.

also, would it be some kind of sin to show calloway/callaghan's penis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#26061652)



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Date: August 3rd, 2024 11:44 AM
Author: white thriller area

i think it works bc you don't need to sell corruption to the audience. we all feel the attraction of it.

when lime says, "see those moving dots down there? what if i offered you $20,000 and one of those dots would stop moving forever?", most people GET it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#47924182)



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Date: August 3rd, 2024 11:47 AM
Author: Mentally impaired bearded cuck dilemma

No. The mystery and healthful vagueness are essential. Characters like Boba Fett are ruined with too much exposure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#47924185)



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Date: August 3rd, 2024 12:03 PM
Author: white thriller area

cr. besides, a few things come into play here

1. audience needs to think he's alive initially, to exp the shock when his friend arrives to find he's *just* died.

2. audience needs to think he's dead after that point, to justify the main plot driver of the murder investigation

3. audience also needs to think he was a good guy, to justify his friend caring enough to seek justice

4. Orson Welles's introduction, with the cat running to him and the light coming on, is one of the greatest shock-moments in film.

5. which means you'd need to get into all the "breaking bad" narrative deep into the movie, which could only be accomplished by flash backs or long exposition. ("So you see, let me tell you how and why I broke bad....")

in other words, lol.

Its a perfect movie the way it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#47924217)



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Date: August 3rd, 2024 12:12 PM
Author: Mentally impaired bearded cuck dilemma

Excellent post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#47924229)



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Date: August 3rd, 2024 2:28 PM
Author: Crystalline sandwich therapy

The fatal flaw is the dreadful zither music



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#47924531)



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Date: August 19th, 2024 2:21 AM
Author: Gaped Affirmative Action Corn Cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#47981022)



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Date: August 19th, 2024 7:39 AM
Author: Sooty confused quadroon goyim

one of the worst xo posts of all time. Wow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2636360&forum_id=2#47981218)