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Mahchine's Will Be Smarter Than Us. The Next President Must Act. (NYT Opinion)

A Harris Presidency Is the Only Way to Stay Ahead of A.I. ...
Mainlining the Secret Truth of the Mahchine
  10/30/24
“ Donald Trump — who neglected to even appoint a...
Wallace and Solace
  10/30/24
Did his cab driver tell him that?
Epistemic Humility
  10/30/24
Friedman seems like one of those guys who thinks he is intel...
Sean South of Garryowen
  10/30/24
A lot of people won’t agree with the timeline but I se...
,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,
  10/30/24
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Mainlining the Secret Truth of the Mahchine
  10/30/24
we're no meaningfully closer to AGI than we were a decade ag...
,,.,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,.,..,.,
  10/30/24
Imagine interacting with GPT-4 vision and thinking that. The...
,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,
  10/30/24
imho GPT is a system for usefully regurgitating existing hum...
,,.,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,.,..,.,
  10/30/24
I would say repurposing human knowledge rather than regurgit...
,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,
  10/30/24
what percent of service workers and office drones are just r...
UhOh
  10/30/24
~95% to some large extent (hell even lawyers often Copy/past...
,,.,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,.,..,.,
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Date: October 30th, 2024 10:16 AM
Author: Mainlining the Secret Truth of the Mahchine (Mahchine's 180 Vi$ion is here...XO, privy to the Great Becumming)

A Harris Presidency Is the Only Way to Stay Ahead of A.I.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/opinion/artificial-intelligence-harris-trump-election.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

By Thomas L. Friedman

Opinion Columnist

Oct. 29, 2024

There are many reasons I was deeply disappointed that The Washington Post’s owner, Jeff Bezos, chose to kill his newspaper’s editorial endorsing Kamala Harris for president, but none more than the fact that Bezos loves science. And this election coincides with one of the greatest scientific turning points in human history: the birth of artificial general intelligence, or A.G.I., which is likely to emerge in the next four years and will require our next president to pull together a global coalition to productively, safely and compatibly govern computers that will soon have minds of their own superior to our own.

Donald Trump — who neglected to even appoint a science adviser until over 18 months into his presidency — is intellectually and temperamentally unsuited to assemble any such global alliance. His administration hastened a vaccine for Covid-19 with one hand and then fostered doubt about using it with the other when it met with a conservative anti-vaccine backlash.

Today, Trump’s first priority is not capitalizing on the tremendous opportunities that will come from America leading in the use of A.G.I. nor building a global coalition to govern it, but to impose higher tariffs on our allies to block their exports of cars and toys and other goods to the United States. The only technology Trump seems to be deeply interested in is Truth Social, his own version of X. Indeed, since Trump has described himself as a “very stable genius,” he probably doubts that there could even be an artificial intelligence greater than his own.

Kamala Harris, given her background in law enforcement, connections to Silicon Valley and the work she has already done on A.I. in the past four years, is up to this challenge, which is a key reason she has my endorsement for the presidency.

That said, one of the many oddities of the 2024 presidential election campaign is that it coincided with, but largely ignored, this blossoming of polymathic artificial general intelligence, which is going to change pretty much everything.

That is because polymathic artificial intelligence is not just smarter than humans in a single domain. It will have simultaneously mastered physics, chemistry, biology, materials science, mathematics, medicine, astronomy, Shakespeare, art history and a host of other fields better than any human ever could and be able to see patterns cutting across all of them in ways no human ever could — so it can both ask questions and provide answers that no human ever could.

Yet the implications for education, jobs, innovation, medical care, economic abundance and the super-empowerment of individuals that A.I. will bring did not figure into the presidential or vice-presidential debates or any town hall that I read about. It is as if the automobile was just invented and reporters and candidates preferred to continue discussing the future of horses.

I am writing a book that partly deals with this subject and have benefited from my tutorials with Craig Mundie, the former chief research and strategy officer for Microsoft who still advises the company. He is soon coming out with a book of his own related to the longer-term issues and opportunities of A.G.I., written with Eric Schmidt, the former Google C.E.O., and Henry Kissinger, who died last year and worked on the book right up to the end of his life.

It is titled “Genesis: Artificial Intelligence, Hope, and the Human Spirit.” The book invokes the Bible’s description of the origin of humanity because the authors believe that our A.I. moment is an equally fundamental turning point for our species.

I agree. We have become Godlike as a species in two ways: We are the first generation to intentionally create a computer with more intelligence than God endowed us with. And we are the first generation to unintentionally change the climate with our own hands.

The problem is we have become Godlike without any agreement among us on the Ten Commandments — on a shared value system that should guide the use of our newfound powers. We need to fix that fast. And no one is better positioned to lead that challenge than the next U.S. president, for several reasons.

For starters, Mundie pointed out to me in an interview, the hardware and software that drive artificial intelligence is being led by American companies but is improving faster than originally anticipated.

“It is quite conceivable that we will achieve polymathic artificial general intelligence in the next three to five years,” said Mundie (who is on the board of Planet Word, the museum founded by my wife), “so it is also likely that our next president, and certainly the one after, will have to cope with the fundamental societal changes that will result.”

Many of those changes should be awesome, starting with the abundance that we will create across a broad spectrum, from medical breakthroughs to agricultural productivity to a faster path to fusion energy. (Note: The engineers behind Google DeepMind’s amazing A.I. protein-folding technology, AlphaFold, just received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry.) Innovating, designing and manufacturing anything will become smarter, cheaper and quicker, all at the same time. We are on the cusp of a new Renaissance. And not just for rich nations.

Think of an illiterate farmer in India who will be able to speak into a smartphone and receive world-class advice, not just in his own language but his own dialect, on which seeds to plant when, with precisely how much water and fertilizer — updated and informed every second by the experience of every other farmer in his region, his nation and the world planting that crop. Or think about how every doctor, surgeon, nurse, architect, engineer, assembly line worker, student, manager, soldier, police officer and teacher will have a personal “A.I. agent” to improve productivity.

Alas, though, also think about how much more empowered criminals looking to commit cybercrimes and terrorists or dictators looking to develop their own bioweapons and disinformation campaigns will also become.

And that just covers how humans will use these new A.I. tools. There is also the challenge of ensuring that superintelligent machines will remain aligned with human values and interests as they use these powers to go off in their own directions.

As Kissinger, Schmidt and Mundie wrote in their book: “Machines with the ability to define their own objectives are not far away. If we are to have any hope of keeping up with the risks involved,” — that is, guaranteeing that the machine contributions are only and always symbiotic with human advancement — “we must respond and act within the shortest conceivable timeline.”

But we cannot depend on humans overseeing the machines, Mundie said in our interview, “because the machines will outsmart them.” Instead, the proper “moral and ethical groundings aligned with human values have to be built into every smart machine’s DNA.” That will require new understandings among the family of nations on those basic values and how to monitor and enforce them.

In sum, the authors explained, we face two huge, looming “alignment problems.” They are the “technical alignment of human values and intentions with the actions of A.G.I. and the diplomatic alignment of humans and their fellow humans” to act together to achieve that. It has to be a global endeavor. We cannot have our A.I. systems operating on the Ten Commandments while Russia’s operate on Putin’s gangster values.

true regarding A.G.I. the morning after the voting is over: Polymathic artificial general intelligence offers us huge, unimaginable opportunities to enable people to live longer, healthier and more abundant lives. It offers us huge risks that cannot be anticipated. We don’t fully understand the extent of either. So, we need to find globally trusted ways to control those risks from A.G.I. while driving incessantly forward to garner the benefits and opportunities. And it is all happening faster than you think.

All of which is to say that if we elect a president next week who is not up to managing this five-point challenge, then the machines are already way smarter than we are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258125)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 10:17 AM
Author: Wallace and Solace

“ Donald Trump — who neglected to even appoint a science adviser until over 18 months into his presidency…”

Oh how will we make any technological breakthroughs without a science advisor??!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258130)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 10:59 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

Did his cab driver tell him that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258308)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 11:01 AM
Author: Sean South of Garryowen

Friedman seems like one of those guys who thinks he is intelligent because he reads a lot. He also seems like the kind of guy who is easily convinced by the latest thing he reads. If he lived in the mid-19th century he would be totally wowed and convinced by the Communisty Manifesto.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258321)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: ,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,


A lot of people won’t agree with the timeline but I see little reason to not believe it won’t happen in the next 20 years. All of the good arguments against near term AGI are looking quite strained now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258365)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 11:12 AM
Author: Mainlining the Secret Truth of the Mahchine (Mahchine's 180 Vi$ion is here...XO, privy to the Great Becumming)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258397)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 11:14 AM
Author: ,,.,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,.,..,.,


we're no meaningfully closer to AGI than we were a decade ago imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258413)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 11:21 AM
Author: ,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,


Imagine interacting with GPT-4 vision and thinking that. There are things it can’t do and it makes mistakes but it’s shockingly general. I think it’s obvious the learning paradigm has won and there’s little evidence of unlearnable logic in human thinking. Take a flexible architecture that has a bias to learning simple circuits and train it on massive amounts of data and it will start thinking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258454)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 11:27 AM
Author: ,,.,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,.,..,.,


imho GPT is a system for usefully regurgitating existing human knowledge in response to custom queries, and that's a damn fine tool (damn fine!), but it lacks creativity/the ability to create new knowledge, judgment, self-awareness - fundamental aspects of human cognition. the fact that GPTs start outputting low quality garbage if trained on synthetic data from the GPTs is the best illustration of their essentially regurgitory and uncreative nature vis-a-vis humans imho hth

P.S. i use chatgpt every day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258490)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: ,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,


I would say repurposing human knowledge rather than regurgitating. It has extracted general linguistic and visual patterns about the world that it can use in novel ways, although it’s not able to think deeply and generate something highly novel. It’s like a very wide bag of tricks and strategies that it can use for emulating low level cognition. I think there ideas from the reinforcement learning space that can deal with that when combined with an architecture that is able to think for extended periods of time. A transformer can’t implement something like a chess engine in its weights, because there is only so much computation you can do if you want to predict the next move in 100 something layers of a NN. NNs that can learn end to end to do search could likely allow that deep sort of thinking. o1 is the beginning of this but there are likely better ways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258595)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 11:51 AM
Author: UhOh

what percent of service workers and office drones are just regurgitating?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258619)



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Date: October 30th, 2024 11:54 AM
Author: ,,.,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,.,..,.,


~95% to some large extent (hell even lawyers often Copy/paste briefs), but that's irrelevant to the epistemological question of whether knowledge creation is taking place in a GPT (though it does go to the separate issue of potential economic impact)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620953&forum_id=2#48258633)