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Three reasons I'm confident SCOTUS will gape Trump on tariffs
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Date: April 6th, 2025 7:31 PM Author: glittery juggernaut boltzmann 1. It's the legally correct result under the Major Questions Doctrine, which wasn't in existence for the vast majority of the IEEPA's (statute Trump relied on) existence.
2. Justices like being seen as the saviors of the global economy and trade system, which they will be if they do the needful.
3. I'm sure the SCOTUS justices own stock themselves and would like to see them moon. |
Date: April 6th, 2025 7:33 PM Author: bistre fanboi dog poop Cope (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48821824) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 7:33 PM Author: Ruby french set I understand this hopium and wish to proceed. What would the timeline be you think? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48821825) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 7:39 PM Author: glittery juggernaut boltzmann That's the part that's hardest to predict- has to go through the normal appellate process. My best guess would be 3-4 weeks assuming new lawsuits are filed early this week. The Florida one already filed apparently doesn't have a TRO or PI motion pending for some reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48821843) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 7:34 PM Author: charismatic charcoal mental disorder You still haven’t answered why Trump would care what SCOTUS says when he doesn’t have to run again, SCOTUS already said he can’t be held accountable for official acts, and the GOP Congress is too cucked to do anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48821827) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 7:39 PM Author: bistre fanboi dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48821842) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 7:40 PM Author: glittery juggernaut boltzmann I answered it in another thread:
Some things are more amenable to judicial review than others. A ruling stopping an airplane flying Venezuelans to El Salvador is, logistically speaking, much easier for the executive to ignore than a ruling on tariffs. Tariffs involve government officials going to importing US companies and saying "you owe us X dollars." After SCOTUS rules, those companies will rightly be able to say "I don't owe you shit- SCOTUS struck down that tariff." What's Trump gonna do- enforce the tariff in a court which WILL follow SCOTUS rulings?
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Date: April 6th, 2025 7:50 PM Author: charismatic charcoal mental disorder But Trump will just tell Customs to keep collecting tariffs. Then what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48821885) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 8:55 PM Author: glittery juggernaut boltzmann First of all, customs officials aren't SEAL Team 6 who love Trump and would die for him. They are bureaucrats who probably hate Trump and loathe this huge increase in their workload resulting from tariffs.
Second, courts can and will order customs officials not to enforce the tariffs which have been struck down, and they can jail them for contempt if they disobey. And if Trump fires them for following court orders then those courts can and will order them to be reinstated.
When it comes to the executive disobeying court orders, there are certain situations where the executive has the upper hand and certain ones where the courts do. This tariff situation is emphatically in the latter category. |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: silver razzle-dazzle nursing home Courts order customs officials to be reinstated, Trump ignores and instructs federal payroll office not to send them paychecks and IT not to grant them badge/email access. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48822102) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 9:00 PM Author: glittery juggernaut boltzmann Same applies - the vast majority of non-military or law enforcement members of the executive hate Trump, and they know that they will get paid eventually if they follow the law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48822110) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 9:04 PM Author: charismatic charcoal mental disorder and what happens when Courts hold Customs officials in contempt but Trump orders the US Marshalls not to arrest them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48822118) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 9:10 PM Author: glittery juggernaut boltzmann You're right, Trump is omnipotent. My bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48822142) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 9:52 PM Author: Vibrant metal alpha The current SCOTUS ruled he can do crimes. Wtf are you smoking. They’d back Congress if Congress passed a bill, but no chance are they striking this down. On behalf of what plaintiff? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48822309) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 9:54 PM Author: Exciting tan crotch scotus is now a bunch of alcoholics, a nigger who'll accept an RV for a green light to do anything, and cunts that owe their entirety to sucking trumps cock. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48822319) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: abusive roommate the current SCOTUS is in on the insider trading no doubt. they can't wait to scoop up the deals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48822323) |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 9:58 PM Author: fighting big-titted queen of the night plaza POTUS can do it Whether or not it's a good idea is another question entirely, and one for the American electorate to solve |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 10:10 PM Author: aphrodisiac brindle mad cow disease Two more direct reasons:
The IEEPA doesn't authorize tariffs.
The IEEPA applies to "unusual and extraordinary threats." The position that the president can use it based on trade imbalances with every country, and some uninhabitabed islands, is a huge stretch.
The 3 democrat appointed judges and Roberts will absolutely rule against Trump here. At least one, and probably more, of the other 5 will too. |
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Date: April 6th, 2025 10:14 PM Author: aphrodisiac brindle mad cow disease Reading more of this law. It requires consultation with congress if possible. It was certainly possible and I presume he didn't do it, so he'll get dinged on that prong too unless scotus declines to reach it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706395&forum_id=2#48822414) |