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How did the Flaming Lips survive making so many bad records for decades?
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:12 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Their 'breakout' commercial success came on the 10th album, 16 years into their career. How do you survive and make records for 16 years without a single famous song? And their biggest 'hit' peaked at 18 in the UK and never even charted in the US. How did they survive financially and not go out of business? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718494) |
Date: March 5th, 2025 6:15 PM Author: Passionate jet-lagged corn cake old irish cottage pre-Napster you could make a modest living as an indie label band. those records all sold like 50k copies, + touring + merchandising. it was a golden age. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718501) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:21 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Yeah you just have to imagine how sink or swim it is now. You either get huge on a big single and a meme or you can't even afford to play at the bar down the street, huh? You have to get maximum exposure and success to even hang on.
Those guys couldn't write a tune to save their lives but they could pay rent, got written up in Rolling Stone and Pitchfork, got to tour with the Chili Peppers. All before they broke through to the point they could charge a decent ticket price for one of their elaborate stage performances.
They probably had the most success of all time for a group of guys who absolutely sucked at songwriting. |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:28 PM Author: Passionate jet-lagged corn cake old irish cottage it's a brutal grind now. most bands tour 300 nights a year or something because it's the only reliable revenue. or they try desperately to license music to advertising/TV/video games. everyone looks physically run down from performing thousands of hours a year, no security. all the recorded music feels disposable.
you used to have bands, even minor bands, who were famous for not touring at all, who were able to live exclusively on royalties. |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:33 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Grim. Did you mean no financial security or like they can't afford to hire security personnel? Not sure which is worse.
What do you think a big band makes today in passive royalties from streaming platforms? |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:21 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann they were a druggie/festival band I think, you can make a good living just playing live if the doods who like to get high in a field dig you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718511) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:25 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site 100%
It's amazing how low the bar is too like if you could hum any of their early songs I'd be completely amazed.
Yikes, I just listened to She Don't Use Jelly. Floored by its incompetence. These guys made Dinosaur Jr sound like they were trying really hard to make hit records. |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:26 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann well thats sort of the point, the cool kids don't want a hit record they want to listen to something esoteric with weird noises, and if you've ever listened to live music on hard drugs I can assure you things hit different, shit that is just noise to a normal person is transcendent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718521) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:31 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Don't you think cool kids eventually move on to something that combines artistry with songwriting talent? Or are you one of those people who thinks that Radiohead's sound is so mainstream that they may as well be lumped in with Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus due to their over the top cheesy melodies and sell-out vibes.
It doesn't have to be one way. It doesn't have to literally be awful and suck to be cool. It can be cool and be crafted to be enjoyable. The Flaming Lips sucked because they sucked. And by the way tons of excellent psychedelic music was made by people who don't do drugs. I dispute that you need to necessarily be high in order to 'get' it. The Dark Side of the Moon is the highest selling rock album of all time and it's got plenty of trippy sounds. You don't have to commit to the shtick of liking bad music to put on something that's going to melt your mind. |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann you don't have to, but you can do expiramental stuff, it isn't as though Kid A for instance was exactly pop music (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718594) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:09 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Kid A sold 1.5 million copies in the US, went platinum in US, Canada, UK, Australia, France, and Italy. It was Rolling Stone's best album of the 2000s decade. In all likelihood any 1 Radiohead record sold more than every Flaming Lips record combined and they went platinum 8 times. It's not remotely comparable. And no one has ever called them a 'festival' or 'druggie' band. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718612) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann I'm not sure what your point is, that's how they managed to make a living and is the correct answer to the question, radiohead started life as a grunge band trying to make hits and so their weird shit still sold, but that just shows people do like weird stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718632) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:17 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Right what I'm saying is that when your first album goes platinum you can have a career in music doing what you want. Flaming Lips never went platinum, they never even came close to selling a million records in the US (or any country, although they did slightly better in the UK). We know where Radiohead got their money from, they had a few big singles on their first 3 albums. But you're missing the point entirely - if their weird phase hadn't been excellent those wouldn't have sold lots of copies either. The funny thing is you can't distinguish between one of the most commercially successful artistic rock acts of all time and a band that never, technically, by any identifiable metric, was successful at selling records, but was around for so long and came up with a festival gimmick that they were able to make some money at it. You really can't tell the difference and/or simply don't 'get' why a band as big as Radiohead can both make weird artistic music and write songs that are actually good and universally acclaimed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718640) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:37 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann idk if you're retarded or just illiterate, I said none of those things, I said they made a living playing druggie/festival shows and they did, that is the answer, you don't have to be commercially successful to sell weird shows to the people who want a weird show, phish has never had a hit song in their lives (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718696) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Phish is the worst band I have ever heard in my entire life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718791) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:06 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann many things come down to taste but you cannot deny they have been making a living for a long time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718823) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:10 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Yeah because strung out retards love having an excuse to do drugs in a field but no one has ever once sat down and actually listened to Phish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718838) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:20 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann perhaps you should reread my first poast, which states precisely this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718893) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 5:58 AM Author: Yellow point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48720465) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:25 PM Author: Maroon property pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718517) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 10:07 PM Author: Vigorous violet feces piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719300) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:26 PM Author: dull bipolar place of business field they weren't bad records just because they weren't famous you idiot philistine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718518) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:27 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site No, they absolutely are bad, awful records. There's no question. They're fucking terrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718522) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Rambunctious plaza They're Gen X soooooooo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718792) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:04 PM Author: green violent striped hyena marketing idea Clouds Taste Metallic is a masterpiece (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718600) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: medicated reading party station youre insane, transmissions from the satellite heart and clouds taste metallic were fine albums. the soft bulletin is a masterpiece (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718603) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:07 PM Author: dull bipolar place of business field guy is a joke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718608) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:12 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site How could it be good? 'Clouds' didn't even chart at all in any country anywhere and 'Satellite' peaked at 108 on the Billboard 200. Can you name one single some from these steaming piles of shit? You think "She Don't Use Jelly" is a masterpiece? This shit is unlistenable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718621) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: dull bipolar place of business field You don't even like music if you think a song has to be a single to be good. You should not even be talking about this because you don't know shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718631) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:18 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site I like plenty of weird bands like Deerhoof and Dan Deacon but The Flaming Lips are one of the worst bands I've ever heard in my life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718641) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:06 PM Author: useless kitchen they lived in oklahoma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718604) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: Avocado rehab they have like three good records. they survived 16 crap records, put out a couple good ones, then went back to putting out dogshit.
i saw them 2-3 times on the yoshimi tour. it was 18000000000 |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site the question in the OP is how did they survive financially long enough to put out 2-3 good ones most people would go completely broke and end up managing a Wendy's. That's what's hard to explain. There aren't any bands today where you go, they cut their teeth on 9 failed records before breaking out into success. It's mathematically impossible in 2025. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718628) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:37 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann sabrina carpenter made like 6 albums before becoming the top pop act in the world this fucking year retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718702) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:59 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site She had helicopter parents who got her on Disney. Total flame. Not saying she wasn't tenacious but she never worked a real job ever once. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718787) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:38 PM Author: green violent striped hyena marketing idea The lead singer worked at Long John Silver's until like 1992 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718706) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:57 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site 1990. Wow. Mad respect. Crazy I semi guessed this. It's cool he made 4 albums while living a life of total obscurity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718773) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:51 PM Author: Avocado rehab there are hardcore bands, like sick of it all and madball and terror, that make about enough to pay rent. i know some of these guys and they've been doing that for like 25 years.
the FL guys probably just had shit jobs and lived together in a ratty house. paid off, though. i bet they're all fairly well off now. |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:57 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site They definitely made a lot of money from touring and selling tickets and merch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718776) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 7:59 PM Author: Avocado rehab rate the flaming lips shows i saw in 2003 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718786) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site ? How can I rate the shows you saw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718788) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:20 PM Author: Avocado rehab Just guess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718895) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site I don't know faggot why don't you just fuckin tell me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718921) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:25 PM Author: Avocado rehab you are a real piece of shit, hoss (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718933) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:01 PM Author: medicated reading party station I saw them in like 2014 in Singapore, they do a great live show (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718796) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:02 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Was your favorite part when Wayne came out in the plastic ball? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718804) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:05 PM Author: medicated reading party station yes im a simple man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718819) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:10 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Clearly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718840) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:13 PM Author: medicated reading party station doesnt change the fact that the flaming lips have put out multiple above average albums, and a couple very good ones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718854) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Not by any measurable metric though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718858) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:15 PM Author: medicated reading party station music is subjective (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718867) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:17 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Right millions of people (millions more than who have ever heard of the Flaming Lips) have heard Kanye sing poopity-scoop but I think we can all agree that it wasn't a good song for obvious reasons. There has to be some discernable metric of quality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718878) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:18 PM Author: medicated reading party station sure but many retards still pan yeezus when it is obviously one of the best albums of the last two decades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718886) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:19 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site I didn't like it at all to be frank I think you're just one of these people who reads Pitchfork or whatever and that rubber stamps all your opinions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718892) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:20 PM Author: medicated reading party station pitchfork is faggot, id imagine theyd have hated yeezus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718900) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site It's unlistenable trash. I say that as someone who likes a lot of Kanye songs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718914) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:24 PM Author: medicated reading party station go see an ent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718923) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site "Yeezus was actually great" is a bizarre take in any context. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718939) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: medicated reading party station its incredible. blood on the leaves is 18000000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718947) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site It's mid at best and only slightly better than the other awful tracks on this trainwreck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718993) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 5:36 AM Author: Yellow point you started this by talking about judging music by a "discernable metric" and using album sales. but bizarrely that only counts for some music. it must sell enough that it's famous but not sell so much that it's super popular. except for bands you do like, when they go multiplatnum that's a discernable metric of quality.
this isnt a cogent analysis, you just don't like some stuff. |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Avocado rehab pitchfork surprisingly gave it a 9.5. they usually have trash takes on rap music. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718943) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: medicated reading party station that is surprising. i agree they are horrible on rap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718949) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:31 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Clock has no free will or his own opinions he is just downloading ideas from hipster bloggers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718975) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:50 PM Author: Avocado rehab Brother why are you going in on him so bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719269) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:54 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Look he has every right to stan for some undercooked 90s albums and some universally dismissed Kanye nowhere close to his peak. It's a free country. And I have the right to call him a faggot on the internet. At the end of the day we are all poasters and we're all on the same team. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719274) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:10 PM Author: Frisky crotch weed whacker flaming lips had a devoted fanbase for a long while. they were sort of like guided by voices in that sense. however, the larger point (awful bands from the 90's and earlier being able to make a living by doing live shows and selling merchandise) is true. for example, fred armisen was in a chicago-area band called Trenchmouth which he used to launch his TV career. Trenchmouth was awful. it's barely even music. but they did fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718842) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:12 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Why did people pay money for Trenchmouth records or to see them perform? What's changed from then til now? Isn't there still an appetite for garbage bands? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718850) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:17 PM Author: Frisky crotch weed whacker at least part of it seems to be local pride and a loyalty to municipal music scenes. if you were into early-90's chicago indie rock, then they were one of 'your' bands, and people from other regions didn't necessarily know about them, and that was special. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718879) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:21 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Is every local scene in America dead? Where was the last one? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718902) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:24 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann last one I can think of were the hipsters in brooklyn, lcd soundsytem doods were like 40 before they had a song anyone had heard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718924) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:25 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site I hate lcd soundsystem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718934) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann you seem to be confusing your own taste for the ability to survive as a band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718944) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Didn't they quit music soon after success and start a bar in Brooklyn or something. They're like all in the restaurant game now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718977) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:38 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann they "quit" after like one semi successful album yeah, but then guess what they did? Came back to tour and make a bunch of money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719005) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:54 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site And they funneled that revenue into the Brooklyn bar and restaurant game and now you can order overpriced cocktails from them. What luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719070) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:22 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann that is still how every band makes their money, Taylor fucking Swift just did a tour that made her like a billion dollars, she is not making that kind of money off her fucking albums
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:25 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Cr people will fork over large sums to be entertained. Wayne, like Taylor figured out that his music sucked too and that's why he made a fortune crawling around in a plastic ball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718929) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:19 PM Author: hairraiser startling whorehouse cuck Flaming Lips defendeds--link even one good song that crap band has recorded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718890) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:20 PM Author: medicated reading party station https://youtu.be/dmzbPLbA9cA?si=5o8wqPSwQrj3XAja (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718896) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:28 PM Author: hairraiser startling whorehouse cuck lmao are you fucking for real man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718957) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:29 PM Author: medicated reading party station Absolutely, that's a wonderful song (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718963) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:20 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Yoshimi is universally accepted indie rock canon and they might get 1 or 2 more sneak in there on a well known Playlist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718899) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:34 PM Author: green violent striped hyena marketing idea TWO SCIENTISTS ARE RACING FOR THE GOOD OF ALL MANKIND (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718986) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:40 PM Author: medicated reading party station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719009) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 5:44 AM Author: Yellow point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48720446) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:36 PM Author: Silver cuckoldry death wish Soft Bulletin -> Yoshimi -> Mystics was an amazing three album run you philistine. But the OP is right, no one ever listens to the 8 albums that led up to that or the 8 that came after. They also had some weird stints doing songs with Kesha and Miley Cyrus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48718997) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:39 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Most respectable thing about Wayne is his personal greed for fame and money. Despite not having any talent to speak of he willed himself into existence. His art is that some loser Gen X fag made a bunch of money and fucked some really good looking women while you were practicing law. His life and determination is the art. Not the songs. Just his life the way he turned out. Impressive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719007) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:42 PM Author: Silver cuckoldry death wish He's an Ascended Scumbag basically. He worked at a Long John Silvers in motherfucking Oklahoma. I also think I read he's doing heroin again lately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719016) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: green violent striped hyena marketing idea I hope not, he has a young kid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719037) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:56 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site I thought it was the other guy who was on heroin. Or were they all doing heroin?
That’s another thing I can't relate to is why anybody would ever do heroin, let alone enjoy it. |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:13 PM Author: Silver cuckoldry death wish Actually maybe not heroin but a lot of other drugs. Interesting read: https://thelostogle.com/2014/05/13/what-exactly-is-wrong-with-wayne-coyne (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719136) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:17 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site tl;dr?
Seems like some typical aging rock star nonsense |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:44 PM Author: medicated reading party station i read it, it was total bs, the allegations are he put an indian headdress on his dog for a photo, he has a young gf and he likes coke. who cares. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719255) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:46 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site yeah you can have this one I don't care neither but he still sucks as a songwriter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719260) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: Orchid office brethren The Soft Bulletin is the most uplifting album ever produced by someone in the midst of profound heroin addiction. How Drozd pulled that off is one of the all time mysteries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719089) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:00 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Why do people do heroin? I have only ever taken lesser opioids from the hospital strictly for medical purposes. And I can honestly say that it was not at all enjoyable. The second I got better I stopped taking that stuff. The whole warmth all over your body sensation shit sounds retarded like it can't even be that great, can it? I have my doubts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719097) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:04 PM Author: Orchid office brethren I’m not an opioidomo so you’re asking the wrong person. I’m guessing they think it feels good, until it doesn’t. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719113) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Drozd said in an interview that he had been addicted for 5 years, aware of his addiction, and that he no longer took it to feel good. I can't personally comprehend this level of addiction. Why do something that you don't like? He obviously detoxed a ton of times. Why do you go back idgi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719125) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:17 PM Author: Orchid office brethren I think when you’re truly in addiction it becomes almost like medicine, in that you can’t function normally and have physical/medical side effects without the hit. Getting all the way through detox means getting through both the physical and mental hurdles, and obviously it’s quite a lot for most addicts.
Usually heroin addicts make sad, depressing music. To find that production sound from that mental state is truly bonkers. |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:18 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site I wonder what music I would make if I were on heroin. I would probably write about how I wish I could stop taking heroin and go back to a normal life imo. Just guessing but we'll never know for sure unless I get a hockey injury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719162) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:46 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann that's why you don't make music though man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719259) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:47 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site true I just put biscuits in baskets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719261) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:49 PM Author: Razzle Lay Boltzmann idk what that means (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719267) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 7:51 AM Author: Avocado rehab He scores hockey goals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48720541) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:51 PM Author: impressive fishy garrison national security agency Some people really love writing songs and I think they genuinely just enjoy the output. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719058) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 8:55 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site There is nothing that makes me more YSFFM than the thought of somebody with no talent making art just because they enjoy it. This is my personal 9th circle of Hell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719079) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:16 PM Author: impressive fishy garrison national security agency what should be done to them as punishment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719142) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 9:17 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site relegated to the dust bin of history imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719150) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: vengeful marvelous box office thats like 90% of trust fund kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719425) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 11:33 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site The one guy from Grizzly Bear was a Forbes or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719471) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 11:03 PM Author: stubborn parlor multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719422) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 11:02 PM Author: stubborn parlor multi-billionaire They made a couple of excellent ones and then crushed it on the tour scene by booking very busy schedules and having a wide coverage range. Yuge merch sales with them. Indie bands have excellent fan loyalty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719420) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 11:35 PM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site I am legitimately jealous of their live show ticket sales and merch revenue. Imagine how big they could have been with 1 or 2 more radio hits as good as Yoshimi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719473) |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 11:44 PM Author: stubborn parlor multi-billionaire The Soft Bulletin was my favorite At War with the Mystics wasn't bad either. I agree that most of their newer stuff is on some sort of mediocre Yoko Ono tip The couple of smaller shows I went to with them the merch tables were all sold out of most of the stock---only remember seeing that with one or maybe two other bands over the years iirc |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 12:03 AM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site They put a lot of effort into making the merch unique and rewarding. If they're gonna charge a lot for it they want it to mean something to people. I've seen some really big bands offer incredibly shitty merch and you can tell it was created in some board room nonsense meeting. But those indie bands really do have a bond with the fans which I respect, unlike their music which is trash in this instance.
I do think Wayne was a pretty decent visual artist/had a good eye for things that are eye-catching. |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 1:28 AM Author: stubborn parlor multi-billionaire The hats were particularly neat and I may still have one in a box somewhere Definitely re his taste for visuals. The weakest part of that band is the lyrics ime. Everything else is pretty good; he's a good singer, the instrumentation is great, and their stage presence was strong. The singer can't write lyrics without it descending into some bizarre latter day Syd Barret word salad pretentious schizobabble though. They could have really done well for themselves with a decent editor |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 1:40 AM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site I would take better melodies than better lyrics homie. I don't mind the weird themes but holy hell there isn't a melodic hook in sight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719679) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 1:42 AM Author: stubborn parlor multi-billionaire Soft Bulletin had a few iirc https://youtu.be/bs56ygZplQA?si=6y1DBjpBMBVSYXOH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719711) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 1:40 AM Author: pale bbw they put on a great live show with trippy props (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719683) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 1:41 AM Author: Supple Liquid Oxygen Site Already been said 5x ITT please read the thread before poasting. This thread is LOCKED. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48719691) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 5:23 AM Author: Yellow point one of my favorite bands. sorry you don't like good things friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689626&forum_id=2#48720441) |
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