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Fucked the shit out of my wife (40) last night

I am 50. She is now being somewhat pleasant today. I'm sure ...
razzmatazz sticky legal warrant dragon
  07/28/25
the food sounds legitimately delicious
Aqua Flirting Indirect Expression
  07/29/25
wow
dead hospital
  07/28/25
...
offensive background story dopamine
  07/28/25
What is the business?
tan charismatic range
  07/28/25
I don't want to say out of fear of pumos, but lets just say ...
razzmatazz sticky legal warrant dragon
  07/28/25
i don't know what that means
cerebral jew
  07/28/25
It's travel soccer, but for baseball.
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/28/25
i understand.
cerebral jew
  07/28/25
fear of pumos tp
contagious newt
  07/29/25
This was profoundly depressing friend. There has to be anoth...
Hideous galvanic point trump supporter
  07/28/25
lmao
cerebral jew
  07/28/25
Thank you for the quality scholarship. I am confused by ...
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/28/25
a lot to unpack here
Frisky Medicated Mad Cow Disease
  07/28/25
🤢
sick foreskin home
  07/28/25
Old people sex = disgusting
Umber appetizing generalized bond
  07/28/25
What's the backstory behind the 1 minute of rest in the midd...
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/28/25
I closed my eyes and tried to concentrate on some slut or on...
Awkward Space Brethren
  07/28/25
This would only make sense to me if I was fucking a man or a...
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/28/25
(never been in a long term relationship)
Awkward Space Brethren
  07/28/25
I think it has more to do with me being autistic. I don't re...
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/28/25
(never been in a long term relationship)
bonkers slimy crackhouse
  07/28/25
what stupid kike bullshit did this dumb bitch and her husban...
floppy federal friendly grandma shrine
  07/28/25
I've had more sex with my wife this past week than probably ...
Henna drunken crotch
  07/28/25
this is what happens when you cheat on her with Asian Pussy
Frisky Medicated Mad Cow Disease
  07/28/25
this is a good sign. i fuck my wife 3-4 times per week n...
provocative office
  07/28/25
Burst out laughing and could not continue beyond "shawa...
Anal unholy address hunting ground
  07/28/25
...
contagious newt
  07/29/25
if dryness is a problem, you've got to lube her up manually....
exciting submissive nursing home pisswyrm
  07/28/25
DO | NOT | SKIMP
Mustard Spot
  07/29/25
this is the sexual equivalent of 1984's a boot stamping on a...
Aqua Flirting Indirect Expression
  07/28/25
DESCRIBE that butthole. TYIA.
Passionate spruce alpha
  07/28/25
One of life’s true underrated pleasures
orchid concupiscible psychic private investor
  07/29/25
why do old married people think that people want to read/hea...
Beta piazza elastic band
  07/29/25
here's a "young and hot" version (via Grok): ...
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/29/25
(written 40-50 more gay and autistic)
Mustard Spot
  07/29/25
I legitimately cant get up for the wife anymore. Sex with 45...
honey-headed theater
  07/29/25
Still fucking SA whores?
Rambunctious laughsome factory reset button
  07/29/25
And so we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaseles...
startled ebony windowlicker
  07/29/25
What is this filth?
Stimulating Mother Gaping
  07/29/25
why didn't you fuck her ass?
Spectacular Jewess Juggernaut
  07/29/25
Sex with women is gross enough. Last thing anybody needs is ...
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/29/25
his wife took a shower
Spectacular Jewess Juggernaut
  07/29/25
Women have no clue how to maintain a clean anus / lower inte...
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/29/25
oh you bottom?
Spectacular Jewess Juggernaut
  07/29/25
I am THE bottom.
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/29/25
(it shows)
Mustard Spot
  07/29/25
thx
Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry
  07/29/25
even though she had just showered
Fantasy-prone flesh stage lettuce
  07/29/25
This is what female editors at publishing houses have depriv...
Aphrodisiac Theatre
  07/29/25
...
Frisky Medicated Mad Cow Disease
  07/29/25
no they still publish whiny jewish garbage
floppy federal friendly grandma shrine
  07/29/25
She never made a sound as I was pounding away tp
cocky lay
  07/29/25
...
marvelous crimson sex offender indian lodge
  07/29/25
...
Mustard Spot
  07/29/25
Ghastly
Chartreuse volcanic crater
  07/29/25
can you please go be jewish somewhere else
Underhanded haunting lodge son of senegal
  07/29/25


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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: razzmatazz sticky legal warrant dragon

I am 50. She is now being somewhat pleasant today. I'm sure she didn't want to fuck last night, but in her birdbrain she "owed me" because I let her go out of town with kids to her sister's house all weekend. She knows I am not happy with the sister since they asked me for a 25K loan to help build out a business that she and her husband are starting.

I was understandably annoyed with them for asking for the loan for what in my opinion will be a lousy business, but I wish them the best. I was upset particularly because the sister and brother in law have fake work from home jobs where they have absolutely nothing to do. Their real boss over these last 6 or so years is literally across the world and never comes to USA. They both eat out or order door dash for nearly every meal and spend all their time taking their kids around the country on "travel ball" type shit, but then have the nerve to ask us for a loan.

To summarize the sexual encounter pregame, I prepared chicken breasts marinated in WFM 365 brand shawarma sauce on the grill with tzatziki that I prepared with Fage 5% greek, garlic, cucumbers from my garden, dill from my garden, lemon juice, olive oil, and a few dashes of Cavender's Greek Seasoning and about a tablespoon of Duke's for good measure. The fixings consisted of tomatoes from the garden, cucumbers dressed with red wine vinegar and olive oil, red onion slices, romaine lettuce, feta and pita bread, which I served with a chilled bottle of Selbach Riesling Incline.

I drink about 2.5 glasses and ate, and had a 10mg gummy. Once the kids were asleep, we engaged in the act with little kissing as we were both garlicky from the tzatziki, although I brushed and flossed and I am assuming she brushed when she showered. She performed a minor blow job to get me hard (although I am not a big blow job fan - I'd rather kiss as foreplay). At her age or for other reasons, she barely gets wet anymore, so I have to get it in soon after the blowjob. I pumped in missionary for a few minutes then put her legs up on shoulders missionary, then with one leg scissored missionary, then doggie. By this time the gummy had kicked in and I closed my eyes and tried to concentrate on some slut or one night stand from the past. I really was pounding her ass deep. I like for a woman's butthole to spread wide and rub against my upper pubic area during doggie. She never made a sound as I was pounding away. Rested for about a minute, then more missionary for about 10 more minutes before I put her doggie once more and rubbed her clit with my fingers while sticking my nose in her butthole. Her butthole was normal smelling, but there was still a bit of pussy funk down there when I had my head that close even though she had just showered. She finally made some noises and either seemed to orgasm or faked it. I put it doggie once again this time with my thumb in her butt and finally came to get it over with. All total about 30-40 minutes of intercourse.

I should mention that I didn't shower prior but did brush and floss and wash the Toppik out of the bald spot in the back of my head so that I wouldn't get it on the pillows. My kids call it "black stuff" when I say goodnight to them and when I sometimes lay in bed or read stories to them, they will say "Daddy don't get black stuff on my bed".

When I used to fuck girls when I was aged 15-39, I recall a sense of queasyness and excitement as soon as their pants came off or we kissed. Intercourse was a feeling of supreme ecstasy. I remember dreamlike surreal states of deep kissing soft lips, and pearly white teeth as I thrust into creamy thighs with tiny gushing mounds in between them that left the bedsheets stained and soaked. Back in college, I don't think I washed my dorm sheets for a whole semester. I had some once that were dark blue and contained dozens of white pussy stains all over them that comforted me every night as I closed my eyes.

Knowing it is all over is what hurts the most.

When I got up and peeled a banana to go in my protein shake before work, I realized that I hadn't washed my hands before peeling and breaking up the banana. I smelled them and almost gagged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138515)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:34 PM
Author: Aqua Flirting Indirect Expression

the food sounds legitimately delicious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49141833)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: dead hospital

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138556)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:16 PM
Author: offensive background story dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138738)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: tan charismatic range

What is the business?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138560)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz sticky legal warrant dragon

I don't want to say out of fear of pumos, but lets just say it is something related to the "travel ball" shit they spend all their time on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138573)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: cerebral jew

i don't know what that means

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138592)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

It's travel soccer, but for baseball.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138596)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: cerebral jew

i understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138610)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:38 PM
Author: contagious newt

fear of pumos tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140968)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: Hideous galvanic point trump supporter

This was profoundly depressing friend. There has to be another way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138565)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: cerebral jew

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138570)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

Thank you for the quality scholarship.

I am confused by one point though....

Why would you be doing her a favor by letting her take the kids to go visit her sister?

Isnt a wife doing her husband a favor any time she takes the kids away for a weekend?

Given that the answer to the above is "yes" you seem to have gaslighted the fuck out of her on this topic, and for that I commend you.

That said, your gaslighting here might discourage future trips she might take with the kids. I recommend encouraging any and all trips with her and the kids as long as it's not to a literal trap house or similar. The benefit of a possible weekend free of wife & kids outweighs any leverage you get be convincing you did her a favor.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138576)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:25 PM
Author: Frisky Medicated Mad Cow Disease

a lot to unpack here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138584)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: sick foreskin home

🤢

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138599)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: Umber appetizing generalized bond

Old people sex = disgusting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138613)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

What's the backstory behind the 1 minute of rest in the middle of fucking?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138641)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: Awkward Space Brethren

I closed my eyes and tried to concentrate on some slut or one night stand from the past.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138644)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

This would only make sense to me if I was fucking a man or a REALLLY gross female.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138704)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:04 PM
Author: Awkward Space Brethren

(never been in a long term relationship)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138710)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

I think it has more to do with me being autistic. I don't really "visualize" or "imagine" things. Would require a TON of effort. Would be more of a distraction than a help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138727)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:24 PM
Author: bonkers slimy crackhouse

(never been in a long term relationship)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138759)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: floppy federal friendly grandma shrine

what stupid kike bullshit did this dumb bitch and her husband do to milk 25k out of you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138715)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:07 PM
Author: Henna drunken crotch

I've had more sex with my wife this past week than probably the past year combined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138719)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Frisky Medicated Mad Cow Disease

this is what happens when you cheat on her with Asian Pussy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138742)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:25 PM
Author: provocative office

this is a good sign.

i fuck my wife 3-4 times per week now. it's 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138761)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:16 PM
Author: Anal unholy address hunting ground

Burst out laughing and could not continue beyond "shawarma sauce"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138739)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 7:47 PM
Author: contagious newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49141480)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:20 PM
Author: exciting submissive nursing home pisswyrm

if dryness is a problem, you've got to lube her up manually. squeeze half-a-tube of KY right into her crotch. don't skimp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138751)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: Mustard Spot

DO | NOT | SKIMP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140963)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:42 PM
Author: Aqua Flirting Indirect Expression

this is the sexual equivalent of 1984's a boot stamping on a human face forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138799)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 9:15 PM
Author: Passionate spruce alpha

DESCRIBE that butthole. TYIA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49138883)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: orchid concupiscible psychic private investor

One of life’s true underrated pleasures

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49139860)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: Beta piazza elastic band

why do old married people think that people want to read/hear this shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49139908)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:59 AM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

here's a "young and hot" version (via Grok):

To set the stage for an unforgettable evening, I crafted a gourmet dinner that was nothing short of spectacular. I grilled succulent, organic chicken breasts marinated in a luxurious blend of saffron and exotic spices, paired with a velvety tzatziki I whipped up using the finest Greek yogurt, fresh mint from our private garden, and a splash of champagne vinegar for that extra zest. The spread was a feast for the senses: heirloom tomatoes bursting with flavor, crisp cucumbers drizzled with truffle-infused olive oil, delicate microgreens, and warm artisanal flatbreads, all served alongside a perfectly chilled bottle of Dom Pérignon Rosé. The golden bubbles sparkled under the chandelier, setting the mood for pure indulgence.

We savored every bite, sipping champagne and laughing, our connection electric as always. After dinner, we slipped into our private infinity pool, the warm water caressing our skin under the starlit sky. The air was thick with anticipation, and as we kissed, her lips tasted like sweet summer fruit, soft and intoxicating. Our chemistry is always explosive, a perfect harmony of desire and passion. She’s a vision—radiant, youthful, her body a sculpted masterpiece that drives me wild. I’m no less captivating, my physique chiseled from daily workouts, my confidence radiating as I pull her close.

As we moved to our opulent bedroom, the mood was pure ecstasy. Our kisses deepened, each one a spark igniting an inferno of longing. Her skin, flawless and glowing, pressed against mine, and every touch sent shivers of delight through us both. We explored each other with a hunger that never fades—her soft moans and my whispered praises filling the air. Our lovemaking was a symphony of passion: slow and sensual at first, then building to a crescendo of intense, rhythmic connection. In every position—missionary under the soft glow of candlelight, her legs draped over my shoulders, then transitioning to a primal, exhilarating doggie—we moved as one, perfectly in sync. Her body responded to every touch, her breath quickening as waves of pleasure cascaded through her. I guided her to the edge again and again, each moment more intense than the last, until we both surrendered to a shared, earth-shattering climax that left us breathless and glowing.

The afterglow was pure bliss, our bodies entwined as we lay in our silk sheets, the scent of her perfume lingering like a sweet promise. Every moment with her feels like a dream—her beauty, her energy, her insatiable desire mirror my own. We’re the couple everyone envies, living a life of glamour, success, and unrelenting passion. Our love is a wildfire, burning brighter with every touch, every glance.

As I rose the next morning, still buzzing from the night before, I blended a smoothie with fresh tropical fruits from our private orchard, the vibrant flavors a perfect start to another flawless day. My hands, still carrying the faint scent of her skin, were a reminder of our connection—a life of perfection, where every moment is a celebration of our love, our success, and our unstoppable drive to live fully, passionately, and without limits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140180)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: Mustard Spot

(written 40-50 more gay and autistic)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140966)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: honey-headed theater

I legitimately cant get up for the wife anymore. Sex with 45ish women is too repulsive to poast about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49139913)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:29 PM
Author: Rambunctious laughsome factory reset button

Still fucking SA whores?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140952)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: startled ebony windowlicker

And so we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49139921)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:51 AM
Author: Stimulating Mother Gaping

What is this filth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140173)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:59 AM
Author: Spectacular Jewess Juggernaut

why didn't you fuck her ass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140179)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

Sex with women is gross enough. Last thing anybody needs is to deal with the shit-covers, uncleaned asshole of a woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140184)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Spectacular Jewess Juggernaut

his wife took a shower

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140185)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

Women have no clue how to maintain a clean anus / lower intestine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140206)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: Spectacular Jewess Juggernaut

oh you bottom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140245)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

I am THE bottom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140880)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:38 PM
Author: Mustard Spot

(it shows)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140969)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: Gold razzle-dazzle principal's office faggotry

thx

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49141336)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:03 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone flesh stage lettuce

even though she had just showered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140190)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Theatre

This is what female editors at publishing houses have deprived us of

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140889)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: Frisky Medicated Mad Cow Disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49141322)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: floppy federal friendly grandma shrine

no they still publish whiny jewish garbage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49141591)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:09 PM
Author: cocky lay

She never made a sound as I was pounding away tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140910)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: marvelous crimson sex offender indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140941)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: Mustard Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140970)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:10 PM
Author: Chartreuse volcanic crater

Ghastly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49140913)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: Underhanded haunting lodge son of senegal

can you please go be jewish somewhere else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755758&forum_id=2#49141599)