the chick actually comes on the board and makes herself look stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004849)

summarize

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004867)

basically some dude applied for a teaching job and got an email back from them saying we dont hire ppl who post on boards all day...then everyone was talking about how thats rude and what not, then the testmasters employee comes on and outs herself in a vindictive manner...no flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004893)

I'm sure some of you will get a kick out of the email he sent me later that afternoon:

Dear Irina,

I am confused by this email and I was even more confused by your conduct when I called you to ask about it. I didn't expect such rudeness and condescension from an administrative assistant, especially one who contacted me for an interview.

Although you are no longer interested in interviewing me, and I am no longer interested in working for a company that employs people who lack basic social skills, I think my Catholic upbringing requires me to offer you some advice: When dealing with people, it's important to be tactful and respectful at all times. Aside from being the right thing to do, it is impossible to know when you may run into someone or need their help in the future. This is a lesson my parents taught me, which with you being raised by wolves, I assume wasn't imparted to you. Thank you for your time and I wish you the best.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXX

To be clear, I am the Programs Director at TM. My job is to ensure that our LSAT classes run properly and that our students and instructors are happy. I also serve as the point of contact for LSAT instructor applicants.

Oh, and "John" has a real name too, just like me. :)

Irina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004982)

this bitch showed seriously fucked-up judgment: sending the vindictive email in the first place; sending it to someone whom you know posts on a ls message board, and is thus likely to share it on that board (particularly because it concerns the board); posting his follow-up email and outing him in that thread. how does any of that serve tm's interests? she's using her position to pwn people and get lulz in a way that threatens damaging her employer. what a fucking moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005338)

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004917)

this bitch should kill herself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14014539)

I can only imagine how her "candor" plays out when she's communicating with testmasters employees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14014857)

i'm hoping (and somewhat expecting) that this will lead to a lulzy fallout.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005221)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005197)

And they're free to reject applicants for seeking information about a confidential interview process.

The objectionable thing is the way the employee handled the situation, which is what people focused on. Hopefully someone will bring this to her supervisors' attention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14006060)

How is preparing for an interview any different than preparing for a test?

And imo, while what testmasters does is perfectly legal and acceptable, at the end of the day it creates unfair advantages for those who can afford test prep and somewhat defeats the purpose of a "standardized" test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14006096)

"defeats the purpose of a "standardized" test."

Depends on how good the standardized test is at testing the skills it's designed to assess. For example, suppose a job requires people to have excellent mental math skills and makes applicants take a mental math test. Some private company has developed an expensive course that improves people's mental math skills significantly. People who can afford the course are at an advantage (whether the advantage is "fair" or not is debatable), but the test will still serve its purpose of finding candidates with strong mental math skills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14006136)

Unless they specifically said not to discuss, which I'm assuming since the woman didn't mention it, they would have to be dumbasses to think people wouldn't prep for it or that they would want people who wouldn't prep for it.

" For example, suppose a job requires people to have excellent mental math skills and makes applicants take a mental math test. "

If you really think taking text masters makes people more intelligent and anything but slightly better at logical thinking you're a dumbass. It teaches them tricks on how to answer specific types of questions that they were too dumb figure out on their own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14006213)

No. It makes them like 60% at LSAT problems because they've seen so many and recognize the patterns. It would make them at best 2% better at reading other complicated texts and about 1% better at reading something like War and Peace.

Playing Mario Kart improves your working memory too, but if you practice you're going to get much better at Mario Kart and improve your working memory almost nil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14006399)

I mean sure, they provide value. But they aren't divulging any secrets. It's valuable like a housemaid is valuable. Rich people have an advantage because they have a housemaid and a chauffeur so they have more time to do other stuff. But you don't whine that this is an unfair advantage. A little extra work overcomes it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14011429)

it was unreal. has to be illegal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14015361)

Kid may also have a due process damages claim against her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14017877)

"Robin Singh has had a brutal week: His students have just received their scores from the recent Law School Admission Test (LSAT), and Singh has been providing emotional first aid, restoring bruised egos and fractured dreams of legal preeminence. But on this Saturday night, at the W Hotel in L.A., he's lounging--bottle-service style--with his TestMasters employees. In his torn jeans and loose suede shirt, surrounded by a dozen twentysomethings in floral button-downs and supersized belt buckles, the 38-year-old Singh doesn't come off as a standardized-test coach who has made millions teaching four-variable logic problems. He looks like a headliner at the Viper Room--and seems pretty happy with his own performance.

Singh takes a slug of Johnnie Walker Blue Label and, in a conspiratorial aside says, "Kaplan's up to something." Kaplan is the industry monster, a national test-prep juggernaut known to every high-school senior (SAT), would-be grad student (GRE), and aspiring lawyer (LSAT) in the country. Kaplan also happens to be a Singh rival--and his former employer. So when Singh says Kaplan is up to something, it probably means Singh's up to something, too."

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/102/test-prince.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018127)

1) i like teaching

2) wouldn't mind owning my own business

3) and i'm not very ambitious

so robin's gig sounds perfect to me. different strokes i guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018507)

edit: not saying it's not a good course, but saying that it's very easy for TM to create the impression that they cultivate high scorers, because they have a lot of students to produce high scorers from. doesn't mean any particular student will be one of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018556)

Of course in the years after that, BP's reputation/word of mouth increased dramatically. By the time I left LA i knew more people taking BP than TM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018722)

on a related note, i have friends in law school that have taught for both companies and they are great people. i think it's mostly the people at the top who made things ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018837)

well played sir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018587)

also, i have met robin singh and i am a FAN of testmasters. there. i said it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019047)

Study for LSAT --> Pay 200K --> Attend HYS --> Take Bar Exam --> Study for LSAT again so you can teach it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019346)

Telephone: 800-696-5728

Facsimile: 424-702-3350

Information: info@testmasters.net

Employment: jobs@testmasters.net

here's their contact info. can we start an xoxo campaign to email/call them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#17206781)