Date: September 8th, 2026 6:10 PM Author: seedy primrose antidepressant drug
The jury foreperson in Lindsay Clancy’s high-stakes triple murder trial detailed just how close the panel was to finding the killer mom not guilty by reason of insanity until one male holdout juror blocked the verdict.
“He admitted he had reasonable doubt after we watched the video of the interview,” the female juror told NBC 10 Boston in an interview with two other women jury members.
“I started filling out forms, I was so excited,” the woman said.
“There were three forms I had to fill out and I started filling them out, I wrote my signature on each one but then he said, ‘But I’m still not going to say she’s not guilty by reason of insanity.’”
One of the three, was named Paula and is a former government contractor. Another, Kelly, is a chef in Plymouth, and the foreperson, Ronnie, is a retired fifth grade special needs teacher.
The jurors called the holdout “arrogant” for refusing to go along with the rest.
One of the jurors told the outlet, the “prosecution didn’t show enough compassion.”
“I just found it to be harsh — very, very harsh,” she said.
“The fact that they had no character witnesses in regards to Lindsay being a bad mother … I found it to be biased.”
The foreperson said all the witnesses and evidence “proved that she loved her children … so she had to have snapped.”
The trio said they found Reddington to be “entertaining,” “arrogant,” “compassionate” and “funny.”
“His compassion for Lindsay was amazing,” one of the women said.
Plymouth Judge William Sullivan declared a mistrial Friday after the jurors sent out its third note that they were at an impasse.
The foreperson the day before notified the judge in a note, claiming that a certain juror refused to follow the law on reasonable doubt, forcing Sullivan to question each juror individually under oath. The judge also re-read the panelists his instructions on the law on reasonable doubt.
The jury — composed of nine women and three men — deliberated for roughly 38 hours over the course of seven days and notified the judge they were deadlocked for the first time on Tuesday, then again on Wednesday and for the last time on Friday.
Clancy’s lawyer, Kevin Reddington, asked the jury to find the 36-year-old former nurse not criminally responsible on the grounds she was in the throes of severe postpartum psychosis and heard a voice commanding her to strangle her three kids, Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 8 months, on Jan. 24, 2023.
But prosecutors claimed she carefully planned the killings and made up hearing the voice and experiencing a psychotic break to avoid criminal culpability.
The case has gripped the country, shining a light on postpartum and mental health issues and how the health care system cares for new mothers.
Reddington argued at trial that Clancy received negligent care from a psychiatrist and other providers who allegedly failed to properly diagnose her and who overmedicated her with 13 powerful psychiatric medications in the four months leading up to the slayings.
Date: September 8th, 2026 7:16 PM Author: animeboi (.)
She had post partum psychosis, Trumpkin. Its a real medical condition just like multiple-personality disorder, transgenderism, oppositional-defiant disorder, fibromyalgia and SIDS.
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:10 PM Author: passionate tank
To be fair she did reach out to a lot of people and say she was losing her mind and begged them all for help and nothing was done to help her. That alone a sympathetic defendant makes. The jury was with her from the opening statements.
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:20 PM Author: passionate tank
She was afraid she was going to have the state take them away. She unironically loved her kids and wanted to be with them. She killed them out of altruistic filicide. She wanted to bring them with her to Heaven and didn't think anyone else would be as good a parent. This was all testified to. Is it your first day?
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:27 PM Author: passionate tank
She believed she had to kill them first so they would be protected by God once she was gone. She heard a commanding voice. She was hallucinating. She had no idea what was going on. The jury watched 10 hours of interviews where she explains to the state's expert what happened and 11 out of 12 jurors found her to be honest and compelling. The one guy who wouldn't go along didn't look at any evidence or think it through he just said she killed her kids so guilty. No thought put into the evidence just like gunneratttt.
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:34 PM Author: passionate tank
She slit her wrists although just barely, slit her throat to the point she could only gargle, crushed pills and took them although this was largely disproven, thinks she cut the screen on the window with a knife although there wasn't a screen, jumped out of a second story floor and transected two vertebra, is paralyzed from the waist down, had an internal body temperature of 82, and coded at the hospital
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:43 PM Author: concupiscible range people who are hurt
Big deal. That is more evidence she was trying to harm-self than kill. Noone would honestly think any of those things would be fatal. A two story window is nothing. Those cuts also are not nearly enough either. A cut can kill you but she clearly avoided doing it at the right place.
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:51 PM Author: passionate tank
I think it makes a lot of sense that a psychotic person would go through the motions and simulate what they imagine would result in their death rather than be successful at it. The unfortunate factor here is that the kids were really young and fragile. I think if they were older no chance she would have succeeded in killing them. This plays into the defense theory that she had no idea what was going on and was doing things that seemed like they would lead to the outcomes she sought rather than it making any practical sense hth
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:05 PM Author: Fracture in the Maidenhead (gunneratttt)
A person who has an irresistible impulse to kill themselves would stab themselves repeatedly. If her self-preservation instinct and pain sensation prevented her from deeply cutting herself then she was in control of herself somewhat.
Date: September 8th, 2026 10:32 PM Author: Emerald Headpube Chapel
so she has a 3 for 3 success rate on killing her kids properly on the first try, but suddenly became incompetent at killing people when it was her turn to join them in heaven. how convenient.
ok on the one hand they introduced evidence that she intentionally strangled her children to death one by one. but on the other hand, they didn't introduce any evidence that she was a bad mother! 🤣
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:15 PM Author: passionate tank
I think when you have a defendant who was normal her entire life and then suddenly has a precipitous decline and snaps and becomes a totally different person it's pretty easy to see why 11 people from Massachusetts would find her sympathetic. I guess this is why the Constitution guarantees your right to a jury trial in the county where the crime was committed.
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:24 PM Author: passionate tank
The only way Tim Cruz could secure a conviction here is if he assembled a jury of 12 people who said they already believed she was guilty during voir dire. Barring that they will just go on to try her 5 times with no conviction.
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:31 PM Author: Fracture in the Maidenhead (gunneratttt)
It seems like the prosecution focused on bashing Clancy and didn't think the insanity defense was going to be what it turns on and compelling to many. That's usually the gameplan, it's not often that being sympathetic to the accused is a good strategy. Also they seemed to focus on selecting older female jurors as they tend not to have sympathy for child abusers/killers, not giving much credit to the post partum elements.
If they don't plea out I think the prosecution has a much better shot. They know what the defenses gameplan is now and won't hammer Clancy as hard.
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:39 PM Author: passionate tank
Putting aside that I said all of this before weeks if not months ago, effectively, yes.
The problem with the prosecution if you actually watched the trial which you admitted you did not is that brow beating the jury with cumulative biased testimony about how heinous the crimes were was literally the ONLY ELEMENT of the CW case that did not EXPLICITLY corroborate the defense theory.
Which is why it's so surprising that we're still here. While I don't think the prosecution will ever win this case they certainly cannot do any worse than they did before. But no jury in Mass is going to convict. Which by the way the venire in Plymouth County is going to be over represented by older liberal white women no matter how you slice it. Big demographic advantage for Lindsay. You're just going to call 12 more jurors that think exactly like these people do.
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:29 PM Author: passionate tank
Chauvin guilt was obvious to anyone who watched the trial. There was virtually no evidence presented in his defense. Sure maybe the medical examiner was lying. Maybe the chief of police was lying. There's nothing you can do about it. The defense poked no holes in the state's case in that one. The defense side was incredibly weak. They couldn't disprove that Floyd died by asphyxiation. They couldn't prove that he had a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system or when he had taken it. Defense was a total mess.
I have never understood the Chauvin truther bull case, just that conservatives tout it as a known thing. I have never seen the evidence exonerating him, and the evidence against him is fairly unimpeachable if taken at face value. Not calling you out individually at all I just have never grasped the Chauvin truther argument. So the ME lied that Floyd asphyxiated and we can prove he died of an overdose? I guess anything is possible. But I've never encountered the hard evidence for it.
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:46 PM Author: concupiscible range people who are hurt
I think exactly what gunnerattt said below, not flame:
"I think Chauvin is innocent because he didn't intend to kill Floyd and he and the other officers believed they were using reasonable and necessary force to arrest him"
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:54 PM Author: passionate tank
If you take an action that could reasonably be foreseen to cause grievous bodily harm even if you didn't intend to kill someone it's at least manslaughter. And under Minnesota's goofy laws it actually qualifies for Murder 2 pretty clearly. What did he get, 8 years? That is a typical manslaughter sentence in most states. Justice prevailed!
Now I will fully go to bat against the federal charges for violating Floyd's civil rights. Total horseshit. Anyway just be fuckin honest you wouldn't want a cop flying out of nowhere crushing your trachea to death with his knee you retarded faggot just admit to this please. It was totally unnecessary.
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:56 PM Author: concupiscible range people who are hurt
Yeah if you take an action as a civilian that can cause bodily harm it can be manslaughter, but if it is part of your job and you are using an approved technique to subdue a dangerous criminal, and your fellow officers are witnessing it and not objecting to it I think it is a completely different context.
Date: September 8th, 2026 10:22 PM Author: concupiscible range people who are hurt
lol he obviously didn't APPRECIATE THE WRONGFULNESS otherwise why the hell would he have done it on cam in front of like 5 other officers and a crowd of people and none of the other officers even objected. but yet lindsay clancy definitely appreciated wrongfulness despite taking actions to make sure her husband wasn't there to witness it....or maybe he was doing a routine part of a dangerous job, and a criminal who took a risk happened to die as a result of it.
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:41 PM Author: Fracture in the Maidenhead (gunneratttt)
I'm just saying that even though I think the prosecution will do better doesn't mean I think they will win, especially when the community is already biased one way.
I think Chauvin is innocent because he didn't intend to kill Floyd and he and the other officers believed they were using reasonable and necessary force to arrest him. I also think the "truther" argument is stupid but also counterproductive. It can be true that Floyd's fent levels contributed to his death or was even the primary cause while also believing Chauvin contributed. It's stupid to think it's likely Floyd would be dead even if he was never confronted by cops. Why not say "Chauvin had no reason to think Floyd was at a heightened risk because of how many drugs he was on."
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:44 PM Author: passionate tank
It's really difficult to split hairs once you get to contributing factors. Floyd would have probably lived if no one stepped on his neck. It's difficult to prove fentanyl overdose if you don't have high levels and you don't know when they were taken. But we do know for sure that cop kneed his neck. We know from the ME testimony that he suffocated to death. We know he couldn't breathe. We know he was kneed. That's really hard to get past. At any rate it's astonishing he didn't elect for a bench trial. What was defense counsel spinning him?
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:49 PM Author: concupiscible range people who are hurt
lol. hatp loooong time conservative here who actually is an alt-right GROYPER who loves nick fuentes but ACKTUALLY I think linday clancy and chauvin were innocent, but also gunnerattt and The Penis are mid-wit moderate liberals
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:52 PM Author: concupiscible range people who are hurt
Well I don't follow or care about politics pretty much at all (I have never actually watched fuentes only know what he is second-hand) and am committed to the truth, was just poasting that because I think the irony is rich in terms of Stance. But to me it comes off like you are literally the opposite of committed to the truth. That's why it feels like you have to be trolling to me.
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:55 PM Author: passionate tank
Agree to disagree bud. You are a good dude and I value your unique insights and opinions. Some day we will have a threesome with The Box and our bond will be solidified for good.
Date: September 8th, 2026 10:00 PM Author: passionate tank
Zurich feels the same way but somehow is able to handle his high. He gets back at my pretentious music takes by showing me his Givenchy hauls I could never afford. You just need some kind of outlet or recourse to deal with your feelings towards me.
Date: September 8th, 2026 9:59 PM Author: ungodly kitchen pisswyrm
Yes it is clear the ME lied. Huh? His toxicology results are known, he could not breathe before the restraint and the knee-on-side-of-neck is taught to officers because it doesnt restrict airflow. Wtf are you talking about?
Date: September 8th, 2026 10:02 PM Author: passionate tank
If this is true why didn't Chauvin's defense counsel ever allege this, submit it into evidence, or prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Are you arguing ineffective assistance of counsel? You seem like you didn't watch the trial.
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:40 PM Author: concupiscible range people who are hurt
Do you think its possible he could convince a jury basically by arguing that even if we are to trust that she really was psychotic, which is self-reported to begin with, that she probably appreciated wrongfulness and could have done otherwise?
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:53 PM Author: Fracture in the Maidenhead (gunneratttt)
I think so. Although I think they'd be wise not to focus on the self-reported aspect since that's tantamount to accusing her of lying. Instead, I think they'll focus on how she was in real distress, perhaps even experiencing periods of psychosis, but that the timeline and brutality of the murders indicates she was lucid enough to "be in control" for at least some of it.
'you see, there were THREE forms I had to fill out -- THREE -- and I had all of my pens ready, laid out on the table, and I was signing the forms, so exciting, and he was just so arrogant. I said, 'uh, hello? I'm filling in the FORMS?''
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:20 PM Author: Richard Ames
The thing that gets me is you just know that if this were a case where the husband killed the wife and one (male) juror thought he was not guilty that the women would all be saying the same shit (but in the opposite direction).
It's why I have only argued that the entire premise is retarded on its face. "You see, under state law she's actually not guilty by reason of (((insanity)))."
How much fucking time and money was wasted by not simply dumping this woman in an unmarked grave?
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:43 PM Author: queensbridge benzo
conceding there wasn't enough proof for a guilty verdict then declining to acquit anyway is the exact opposite of what happened in that movie. you're so fucking stupid it's unbelievable.
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:13 PM Author: Multi-colored Doobsian Telephone
Prosecutors were two dumpy women trying to lock away a HEROIC NURSE for methodically strangling her children and the defense attorney was 6'2 and so handsome, full of compassion for this poor (former) mother. He really made these birdbrain jurors feel HER PAIN.
Date: September 9th, 2026 10:24 AM Author: shimmering medicated church building main people
i dunno. close call. they can rely on their experiences, but can they invoke their authority as nurses to "explain" a medical document in evidence?
i think that is highly improper and if i learned one of my jurors was positioning self as expert unratified by the court, i would THRUST for a mistrial
Date: September 9th, 2026 10:33 AM Author: passionate tank
Jurors can and do use whatever whacky beliefs they have all the time. It's very hard to remove a juror. It has to be a really blatant violation. It can't be something like they applied their experiences and knowledge to the evidence. Jurors decide cases not judges and lawyers. The whole point of a verdict is that it was reached by random impartial people doing their best
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:31 PM Author: Richard Ames
In Massachusetts it's legal (and protected) to perform "gender affirming" surgery (LMAO). But we are supposed to sit and argue about their definition of "insanity."
Date: September 8th, 2026 8:52 PM Author: passionate tank
Virtually every legal expert who watched the trial thought it would be NGRI or hung. They nailed it. It was painfully obvious which way this was going.
Date: September 9th, 2026 9:41 AM Author: Gold kitty
Lindsay Clancy juror speaks after mistrial: "There was so much doubt"
A woman who served as a juror in Lindsay Clancy's high-profile murder trial in Massachusetts provided a look at deliberations, saying there was too much doubt for her to reach a guilty verdict.
Clancy's trial ended in a mistrial on Friday due to a hung jury. According to a note sent to the judge by the foreperson, there was an 11-1 split among jurors.
A woman who was juror No. 5 spoke to WBZ-TV's Kristina Rex Tuesday, though she asked to remain anonymous.
"At the end of the day, there was so much doubt," the woman said. "The prosecution didn't have a figurative smoking gun. There was not a single moment throughout the presentation of that case where you could say 'Yup, 100% I'm certain she did it' or that she didn't do it. There was too much gray area."
Lindsay Clancy juror interview
The juror said that from the start of deliberations, the majority of the room was trying to sway the lone holdout.
"The majority of people, it doesn't matter what side they were on, were very firm in their stance and their belief from the beginning," she said. "The stand-alone juror was not the only one that was unwilling to see things from the other side. So, I'm going to kind of defend that individual in a sense. There were some big personalities in that room. But at the end of the day, it just came down to an inability to move past your convictions."
The juror who spoke to WBZ-TV said at first, she believed Clancy should be found guilty and was criminally responsible for the deaths of her three children.
"And maybe I still believe that in a certain way. I think that this is a woman who was not mentally healthy. She was someone who was in the throes of a significant mental health crisis," the juror said. "I really just felt like she was so deep in it that she couldn't see her way out."
Juror will "never be the same" after hearing 911 call
Clancy's attorney attempted to have the holdout juror thrown off the jury because he argued they were refusing to apply the instruction of the law to reasonable doubt.
"At the end of the day, to not follow that reasonable doubt and to acknowledge that it's there, you morally and legally cannot convict somebody for that. And that was therefore a violation of her constitutional rights," the juror said. "Essentially, that is what we were there as a jury to do is to uphold that Constitution and give someone a fair trial of their peers. And I don't necessarily think she was getting that with that juror. It's not simply because of the fact that he had an opposing view or this person felt like she was guilty. It was the inability to back that up with any logic."
When it came to sitting on such a high-profile case, juror No. 5 said there were moments of devastating testimony. Particularly, she said hearing the 911 call from Patrick Clancy, Lindsay's now ex-husband, was something she will never forget. The call was played in the courtroom, but not broadcast during the trial.
"I will never be the same after that 911 call," she said. "After the trial, I saw all the conspiracy theories about how Patrick did it and that he somehow convinced Lindsay that she had done it when it was really him. All I could think was that if these people could have heard that visceral, blood-curdling scream, I don't think I could name a single actor or actress that could have performed that the way he did, and not that he performed it, but I will never be the same after that. It was horrifying. Just to imagine living through that and being the person to find your children in that scenario, it shakes you."
Prosecutors have not yet said if they will retry the case a second time after the mistrial.
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This juror said there was doubt about whether she did it. That the prosecution did not have a smoking gun. She admitted to doing it. I mean holy shit what is wrong with this country.
Date: September 9th, 2026 10:15 AM Author: Fracture in the Maidenhead (gunneratttt)
"There was not a single moment throughout the presentation of that case where you could say 'Yup, 100% I'm certain she did it' or that she didn't do it. There was too much gray area.""
Don't be mad that she's upholding our Constitutional Due Process right that guilt must be proven beyond any doubt whatsoever.
Date: September 9th, 2026 12:31 PM Author: animeboi (.)
The prosecution could not prove BEYOND a reasonable doubt that she DIDN'T go temporarily insane when she killt her children, Trumpkin. ("sorry 'bout that, won't happen again!")