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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Snowy vibrant gay wizard haunted graveyard
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
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The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
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Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Misunderstood slate hall puppy
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
stirring casino
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wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Misunderstood slate hall puppy
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
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I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
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that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
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state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
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Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
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how do they get home?
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they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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zippy lime market gaming laptop
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presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
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correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Misunderstood slate hall puppy
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Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
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ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
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How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Snowy vibrant gay wizard haunted graveyard



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Snowy vibrant gay wizard haunted graveyard

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: stirring casino

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: stirring casino

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: stirring casino

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Snowy vibrant gay wizard haunted graveyard

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: stirring casino

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: stirring casino

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Snowy vibrant gay wizard haunted graveyard



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: zippy lime market gaming laptop

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: zippy lime market gaming laptop



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Amethyst indecent institution

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Insanely creepy wonderful location

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Chest-beating dilemma wagecucks

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Misunderstood slate hall puppy



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Hateful talking philosopher-king

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: ultramarine sanctuary

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: stirring casino

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Primrose lodge

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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